Fee Waybill-This Week’s Podcast

Fee Waybill is the lead singer of the Tubes. Listen to how he made it from Arizona to San Francisco, from the country to the city, from roadie to frontman. And get an education on polo to boot!

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The State Of The Union

Does anybody take this shit seriously?

It’s political theatre, and a bad production at that. The team in control stands up and applauds, sits down and then does it all over again. Over and over and over again. The president promises stuff that will never come to be, and then the pundits analyze this worthless affair ad infinitum. I never watch, it’s a waste of time. I read about it after the fact. But tonight, doing my back exercises, I tuned in. This is our country?

I guess when I was young I believed in the government. And I’m not talking about the bureaucracy, all the stuff some want to drown in the bathtub. I mean I thought the elected officials were educated and intelligent people with the best interests of the public at large in their hearts. After all, there’s not a single person elected in the House or Senate who only represents people from one side, but that’s how they act. Until they want to weasel out of commitments, like Joe Manchin, telling us those on the other side won’t tolerate it. No Joe, you don’t want to vote for it because you’re afraid you won’t be able to get all those donations, and god forbid you lose your seat… When did serving as an elected official become a permanent job? Too many of these people have lost touch with real Americans. And by that I don’t mean just those living in rural areas with too much power in the Senate and ultimately receiving more than their share of government aid. If you’ve got money, you’re removed from the street. That’s one of the reasons you make the money. The goal is to have a private jet and vacation on a private island, meanwhile jumping from house to house with impenetrable security. You don’t even do your own grocery shopping, how in the hell would you know what is going on?

Oh, by reading the news. And believe me, that goes a long way. But never forget that the news media missed Trump. You’ve got to do more than go out there and shake hands. You’ve got to read your e-mail. You’ve got to live amongst your constituents. You’ve got to come down off your pedestal and be one of us. But no, politics is show business for ugly people and they all think they’re better than the rest of us, ain’t that a laugh.

Now, with democracy in jeopardy, the Ukraine war putting the entire world into focus, illustrating how we’re all intertwined, you’d think the country could come together. BUT NO! Politics has turned into a 24/7 sporting competition. You’ve got to take the other tack from your opponents. I mean aren’t we all against Russia? I mean even Tucker Carlson switched sides.

As for Donald Trump telling us it wouldn’t happen under his watch… Why doesn’t he tell us not only exactly why, but what Biden should be doing, be presidential. But no, we just get endless self-promotional platitudes, saying to trust him. Does anybody truly trust Donald Trump? Not even Melania does. They voted for Trump because he captured and articulated their pain and frustration, something the Democrats have given up on. The Democrats are all intellectual now. Feeling is not a part of their platform. As for Biden…Bill Clinton felt people’s pain better, however his wife Hillary was a technocrat.

So the bottom line is Putin is a dictator.

I’m just reading the news and they’re speculating there’s something wrong with him. He looks puffy. Macron said he sounded different.

Oh come on, Putin is single-minded and he doesn’t suffer fools. Would you like someone to take a look at a photograph of you and judge you?

I mean at some point elder people are more prone to dementia, like Ronald Reagan, who had the disease while still in office, but enough with Biden being out to lunch. He hasn’t evidenced this whatsoever. And he’s your president as well as mine, and what he does in office affects us all, especially regarding Ukraine.

And then there was the inane response from Kim Reynolds, the Governor of Iowa.

The Republicans employ code words. They focus on social issues, which usually fade away, to rile their troops and get elected. So fearful of critical race theory, which is not even taught in today’s elementary and high schools, they elected Glenn Youngkin in Virginia, who immediately reversed so much of the progress and social equality measures his Democratic predecessor instituted.

So Kim Reynolds rails on about education. That we’ve got to get the parents involved. If only they truly were! And I don’t see them running to get minorities’ parents involved. No, this is about coddled white people, who want vouchers so they can attend schools that exclude everybody who doesn’t look like them, or maybe have a token or two. It’s about separation, not inclusion. And in truth, parents shouldn’t be hands-on re the curriculum anyway! If you think you know better, home school your kids, which too many people are doing, as if it’s all about the subjects. Most of what you learn in school is how to get along with people! Like college, I learned a hell of a lot more out of class than in. If for no other reason than I was exposed to people from around the world, with different backgrounds and beliefs. I mean I grew up in a suburb, only fifty miles from New York City, but until I went to college I had no idea what was going on in the rest of the country, despite watching television and reading the news. I’d never been around people SO RICH! You think you want a seat at the table, but you can’t get and keep one until you know where these people are coming from, how to behave around them.

So all this stuff Reynolds and the Republicans are going on about we all want. We all want better schools, we all want a more efficient government. Then again, in some cases, Reynolds wants the community to do it instead of the government. Can the community fight a war? Is the community gonna take care of the underprivileged and abandoned? No, the government does the work the rest of us don’t want to.

And talking about Democrats and taxes. This ties me in a knot, trickle down economics never works, the Republicans kept lowering taxes and the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. And therefore every new tax is wrong? I mean why can’t you be a student of history?

And it’s not only tax policy, but environmental policy. First, let’s accept climate change. Second, let’s stop putting up straw men like China. The truth is China has cut pollution far in excess of what the U.S. has. And their electrical vehicle production and consumption far outweighs that of America. Oh, but you’ll read blowhards in the WSJ talking about electric vehicle subsidies… What about gas and oil subsidies, what about farm subsidies? The government invests for the future, LIKE THE INTERNET! Which I’m employing to reach you right now. You spend to grow.

As for the governmental subsidies, to keep people and the country afloat… They didn’t cause inflation, Covid and the supply chain did. Furthermore, the economy is raging. Why do people keep thinking governmental monetary policy is the same as personal monetary policy. It is not. Turns out printing money can be a good thing. Austerity… Germany and the EU almost broke Greece and Spain a decade ago. Made them pay for prior mistakes. End result? Generations out of work.

So let’s find common ground on a few of these points.

Right now, the enemy is Putin. And we can’t be isolationist. Because rust never sleeps and neither does Putin’s effort to restore the old Soviet Union. I mean Tucker Carlson went to Hungary and sang its praises. What next, praising Cuba? Or North Korea?

Yes, we can differ on how much to tax and spend. But that’s not what we’re doing, we’re doing NOTHING! As if broken down infrastructure will fix itself. Yeah, what if you’re on that bridge when it collapses. How lucky do you feel, punk.

As for the tearing down of all Covid restrictions, which seems to be a train that has left the station based on the words of a very few blowhards… Have you seen what happened in Denmark when they did this? Covid infections WENT THROUGH THE ROOF! But Denmark’s vaccination rate is very high, the United States’ is very low. And the new variant is more contagious. So if you’re not vaxxed… Once again, how lucky do you feel? When you have to swim across the river, and it looks kinda  far, do you want to depend on your inner strength or would you like the aid of a life preserver? Which will keep you afloat when you tire, so you can rest and then complete your journey.

Then again, safety nets are anathema. It’s like everybody wants to live in the old west, with their boots and their gun. Well, if you got sick or shot in the old west…you died. There was not a hospital nearby. And if you get Covid and need to go to the hospital, if you have to go to the hospital for any reason, good luck getting in. Did you know that more people have died of Omicron than Delta? Yes, Delta was inherently more deadly, but so many more people got Omicron.

Don’t bother to send me b.s. contradicting what I have to say. That’s just b.s. from tireless self-promoters looking to become rich and famous, selling their untested nutritional products to fund their quest. You’ll put this junk in your mouth but not take a Covid vaccine?

We have a lot of common ground. But it’s being denied, by Mitch McConnell and the rest of the team players. Imagine if you worked at the corporation and you told the boss your goal was to make sure your coworker never completed anything, how high would that fly? NOT AT ALL! You work together for the best result. I mean come on Mitch, your job is to legislate, you really can’t find common ground? I’m sure if we had dinner we’d find we’re more similar than different, but you single-handedly changed the balance in the Supreme Court, undermining the INTEGRITY of the institution. And yes, I can no longer believe in the Supreme Court, and I’m not the only one. And as a lawyer, the entire system is based on stare decisis but these judges are ignoring it? Tell me these decisions are not political.

You don’t want to involve the police and you don’t want to go to court. Even when you win you often lose. It’s expensive and try collecting.

Ukraine is a thorny issue, can we please address that?

And pierce the veil. The Republicans keep foisting good-looking women to spread their message, but so many of their policies are anti-woman. Do you think we’re stupid? Oh, that’s right, many of us are. Believing that Biden is responsible for dramatic gas price increases. But in 2021 America had the third highest domestic oil production in history!

And Tucker Carlson railing against dollar stores. I can’t even comprehend this. So you’re poor and you have to shop there and now Tucker is criticizing you for it, telling you you’re making America dirtier, littering all the while?

Yes, read the “Washington Post” fact-check on Tucker’s Monday night show: https://wapo.st/3HyKW5m I really wish you would, I pay attention to Fox News.

And while you’re at it, read Thomas Friedman’s piece on Ukraine in today’s “New York Times”: https://nyti.ms/3IDVXn7 He lays out the three possibilities of how the war in Ukraine plays out. You need to familiarize yourself with the possibilities, after all this is affecting you and your wallet, never mind your future.

And enough with the left crapping on Friedman. Sure, he’s married to a rich woman and he’s not always right, but basically you’re pissed he’s in the “New York Times” and you’re not. That’s America today, everybody believes their opinion is entitled to a hearing. Talk to your friends and neighbors, but if you want a bigger audience you’ve got to earn it, build it. And journalism is a game, I don’t care how good you are, do you know these people at the “Times” and other papers?

I don’t and I don’t care. And some of these blowhards are so bad. Farhad Manjoo was a reasonable tech columnist, but as an opinion writer, he’s too often whacked. And Michell Goldberg too often shows her biases and misses the point. But the “Times” has never called me to write for them and never will. I own it. I’ve got my audience, I’ve got distribution and if I do something really damn good it goes viral, that’s how it works.

Everything is hard. But Americans want it to be easy. And everybody believes they’re entitled to be a star. And the one that bugs me the most is Americans don’t believe in sacrificing, not whatsoever. The greater good? Screw the rest of the populace. In the U.S. no one can lose their job, progress is hindered because wankers want the past protected, and that’s a journey to disaster, which is happening right now in electric cars. GM and Ford are dabbling at best, Lucid and Rivian can’t even build them. Meanwhile, China and VW are whole hog. And despite all the blowback on Tesla, it keeps selling more and more cars.

So it’s all bad. Not only do I not believe in too many Americans, I don’t even believe in the SYSTEM anymore. I don’t call this democracy, when the Dakotas get four senators and California gets two. But the Constitution is inviolate. Why? Imagine if your smartphone or computer were inviolate, imagine using an original iPhone, even worse a Treo.

It’s dusk in America. But can’t we at least rally around the common enemies, Russia and Covid?

I guess not.

Border

Trailer: https://bit.ly/35fmdWJ

This is one of the strangest movies I’ve ever seen.

Can I talk about movies? Or should it be war 24/7. I don’t want to be disrespectful, but I am paying attention. And I don’t see how the Ukrainians ultimately succeed against the Russians, who thought a little dab would do ’em and when this turned out not to be true doubled down, tripled down.

I mean we could send troops. Not only us, the EU too. But then what happens, does it turn into a worldwide conflagration instantly? Desperate people do desperate things. Meaning if we push his back to the wall, then Putin really will launch his nukes, hell, he’ll think he has nothing left to lose.

Meanwhile, this war is happening. There, not here. It’s so strange to live a normal life here when they’re losing their lives there. When survival is the only thing on your mind, well, along with fighting back. Most Americans have never been in that situation. A disaster for them is when the Wi-Fi goes down. But that’s one reason to be athletic, to go out into the wilderness, because if you do this on a regular basis, I guarantee you you’ll end up in a life or death situation. At least it will seem so to you. And that’s all that matters. And you’ll never forget it.

I mean there’s a war going on right now and people are being shelled and losing their lives? It’s almost incomprehensible, doesn’t compute.

But we did watch this movie last night.

Actually, we’ve been on a run of stuff that I don’t feel comfortable recommending, like “Hellbound.” The “Telegraph” said it was one of the best foreign streaming shows extant, more popular in South Korea than “Squid Game.” And I’ve watched a bit of Korean TV. Tends to be slow, with a lot of air. But not “Hellbound.” They talk, there’s action, but there’s this supernatural element… And that doesn’t really appeal to me, but I don’t want my money back from Netflix.

But one thing we did watch which was a ten was “Another Round,” from Denmark, starring Mads Mikkelsen, who is never bad, the worst he ever was was when he played the Russian president in “House of Cards,” but in his native country? Superb. It’s billed as a comedy, but half of it is drama. What you’ve got is a high school teacher who has lost his way in life and then he and his buddies… Watch this, you’ll dig it. It wasn’t until I was researching after it was done that I realized it won the Oscar for Best International Feature Film.

And “Border” had an Oscar nomination, but it did not win, and I don’t want to tell you the category because that would be giving too much away. Because this film is gonna start and almost from the very beginning you’re gonna wonder…WHAT IS GOING ON?

It’s not incomprehensible, it’s not the editing, it’s just who is this person and where is this going!

Tina. Her job is as a customs agent, looking for contraband.

I thought it was a crime movie, law and order, but that didn’t turn out to be the case.

You see, Tina looks strange and…

I almost don’t want to tell you anymore. Because that’s key to the experience, watching and figuring out what is happening.

And when it’s over…you can’t let go of it. You could have bad dreams, maybe, but it’s not a horror film, not even a thriller.

But I immediately had to go online and find out the backstory, try to find answers to my questions.

Turns out “Border” is based on a short story, not that you’ve heard of the author. And there are Reddit threads discussing the film. I figured there would be little information. But if you saw “Border, you either loved it or hated it! Like the guy from “The New Yorker.” He went by accident, the other film was sold out, he thought it was a different movie. He thought it was one of the best films he’s ever seen —”I Accidentally Walked Into ‘Border’ And It Kind Of Changed My Life’: https://bit.ly/3vtIY3N. But walking out of the theatre a mother was saying it was the worst!

Watch “Border” and get back to me. It and “Another Round” are on Hulu. And plenty of people have that. I not only want to know if you loved it or hated it, but what you thought really happened.

Let me know.

Re-The Death Of Bands

Funny, I just got my solo band back together.

I didn’t know if they were going to still be on my team after two years with the pandemic, but they’re jubilant.

But hell no on going on the road, unless I get a fly-in offer from a festival, which I’m not completely counting out the possibility of as my live stream following is building in the jam band circuit.

Recently I got to do a solo set inside the venue with Twiddle, which grew my live stream audiences by about 10% maybe. Modest, I’ll take it.

So yes I’m excited to have the band back, but not stopping the solo live streams, people watch every Monday still, 97 weeks in.

It’s great to have a band just for the power you feel from it and how it helps you grow as a performer.

The way Springsteen describes it in the Broadway show, it’s true.  It’s like a force elevating you, if the musicians are great and you have chemistry.

But you’ve gotta pay everyone if you’re a solo artist. Whether they ask for it or not. Even if it’s just what you can afford to throw them for a rehearsal, that’s how you get reliability and loyalty. I don’t deal with any flakes anymore. Flaky musicians are usually the ones who are willing to play for free.

Yeah man I’ve been down that road, nine years in a band called BuzzUniverse teetering on the edge of being the next big jam band in the Northeast, but like you said… Your fire one person suddenly you realize 10 fans are gone… All that stuff, dead on. Lived it, done it… Done with it!

Gregory Mcloughlin

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Subject: Re: The Death Of Bands

Spot-on as ever, Bob.

Myself and a partner bootstrapped a music PR firm (Sweetheart Pub) working in the Americana niche in late 2019 and we’ve found success and enough business that we’ve never had to cold-call prospective clients to make ends meet … and I’m also a member of a “successful” band (Great Peacock). I put that in air quotes because, yeah, it’s almost impossible to make a living as a band today. It can be done, as you’ve outlined here, but it relies SO heavily on the live/tour component (playing to the cabal, if you can even get their attention).

We’ve had all the things a lot of baby bands would kill for — top-tier support slots on tours, festival slots, radio success, a great manager / booking agent / publicist / two radio promoters all backing us. We did it without a proper label (we were lucky enough to find an “angel investor” type deal), but holy shit does the financial well dry up fast paying all those folks on top of gas/food/hotels on the road. We still get tagged as a ‘baby band’ by those above us on the food chain, which is undeniably true as much as we don’t want to believe it. It hurts as we’re all in our mid-30s now with our only viable income source being touring — living and dying on the road is a younger person’s game, and it’s only gonna get harder as the years go by.

We’ve had decent streaming success, certainly not enough to count on the income, but we’ve hit all the desirable “discovery”/curated playlists that acts in our genre would want (Indigo, Pulse of Americana, etc). Six-figure monthly listeners when we were on-cycle, which is about as good as it’s gonna get in our genre. What has that really done for us…? I couldn’t tell you. We look good on a one-sheet, that’s about it.

Social media has always been the band’s weakest link, and it is absolutely part of the job if you want a stable career in music nowadays. And even if we did everything right — you’re correct, it’s about the individual, the FACE nowadays in that realm. Just like it used to be with the A&R department, only now it’s democratized on socials. You’re an influencer first, musician second.

I say all this because in my time as a publicist, I have to reality-check almost every client that comes our way with basically what you’ve outlined here — there is SO MUCH MORE that musicians need to be actively doing (24/7) beyond hiring out the work and waiting for the success to come to them. And even if, at the end of the day, you hit all those goals and benchmarks, you still might not be living off of it. You probably won’t, in all likelihood.

It’s grim, but it’s the reality. PR work pays my bills, and I don’t expect that to change anytime soon.

Cheers,

Frank

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Dear Bob,

“A slow train still moves down the line”.

That’s the opening line to a Pressing Strings song I wrote called “Slow Train”.   I was pleasantly surprised to see you use that that term in this piece. 

Pressing Strings is the band I’ve been fronting for over a decade now and you hit the nail right in the head about what we are dealing with as a band in these times where success is short lived, gimmicks are king, and the treadmill never stops.

My band is about as grassroots as you get.  We bubble at about 50-60k monthly followers on Spotify—which is considered nothing to many big labels.  But it isn’t nothing.  With that money we have been able to steadily fund the recording and marketing of new material, hire a radio person to shop our songs to AAA stations throughout the U.S.

From that radio play we attracted management and we’re signed by Hard Head Mgmt (who originally found and backed Marcus King, The Revivalists) and is run by Stef Scamardo, who’s name you may recognize from her show JAM ON on Sirius XM.  She’s also married to Warren Haynes.

Hard Head found us a proper booking agency (Madison House) who has been able to line up opening slots for people like your boy Neal Francis, JJ Grey & Mofro, along with Festivals like Firefly, Peachfest, Floydfest…

For years I’ve gone back and forth toying with the idea of going solo under my own name to simplify the process.  It’s seemingly easier to market one person than an entire band. But the reality is that would neuter the whole musical experience for me.  There’s nothing in the world like traveling with your best friends and making magic for people night after night.  The collective highs and lows, the backstage hangs, the hotel shenanigans, the 14 hour recording sessions. There’s no substitute.

While we may never get the band jet or the tour bus convoy.  We are able to support ourselves and our families, paying our mortgages though playing music live for folks and that’s way better than most jobs on earth.

Thanks for the sharing your insight.  Big fan!

Jordan Sokel

www.pressingstrings.com

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The mythology of the rock band has mostly disappeared from our cultural milieu..

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“Freaky Friday” came out two decades ago..Lindsey Lohan’s character played in a band..JLC had to cover for her at the big showcase..”The Rocker” movie came along about the same time..All about making it as a band..

You couldn’t sell a movie like that today..

I’m a sitcom/comedy movie guy..The stock character of the loser/wanna-be rocker is now the aspiring DJ or rapper..The only bands on screen are the embarrassingly unhip dads in the garage..

That Viagra ad with the old guys rockin’ out didn’t help..

Whenever the boss leaves the office (in a comedy flick), the employees party down to rap songs..A celebration replete with the usual tropes- making it rain, twerking, the hand/arm gestures, etc ..

Most every soundtrack uses rap songs..Dramas, rom-coms, sportcasts, westerns (!?), and documentaries..We have the “notorious RBG” now..(Bader Ginsberg)..Of course…

 

The rock bands that HAVE made it in the recent past seem to be one main guy and replaceable side men…Coldplay, Muse, One Direction, Panic! @, Imagine Dragons, 21 Pilots, Maroon 5, etc..

 

So, the band paradigm is not only economically and logistically unfeasible, it’s, like, SO last century..

Like the big band era was to us..We scoffed at the absurdity of the clarinet..Kinda’ still do..

James Spencer

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Bob

 

Congrats this is THE definitive explanation of the current landscape. Could be the entire first year curriculum at any school attempting to teach the music biz. 

 

Bands have been replaced by ephemeral clusters of people who come together sometimes in the same room, mostly disconnected in time and place, some accomplished on an “instrument”, others good at pushing cultural buttons, to make music one record at a time. Some call it “writing by committee”. I call it collaboration. 

 

Something that you imply but don’t dig into, that leaves brain matter on the wall when you point it out to industry vets: Virtually no one making it as an artist today EVER played live before they were famous!

 

As you point out it’s all driven by a great leap forward in the democratization of the creation and distribution of music. Next big leap which will probably trump them all – AI created music. The art will be in how the kids mess with the AI to make music that no human is capable of and no one has ever heard before. 

 

Exciting stuff!

 

Best,

 

Michael McCarty