Billy F. Gibbons-This Week’s Podcast

Legendary ZZ Top guitarist Billy F. Gibbons has a new solo album, “Hardware.” We discuss its making in the desert as well as Mexican food, hot sauce, automobiles, travel, “I’m Bad, I’m Nationwide” and so much more. Billy is quite the raconteur and you’ll want to hear him opine on multiple topics, it’s like hanging with a good friend!

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Blue

It wasn’t a hit.

I’m not saying it was a stiff, but most people never heard it. Furthermore, radio didn’t play it. By 1971, FM radio stations were leaning harder, there was no room for singer-songwriters and their quiet music. This even haunted James Taylor, the biggest of the lot. Suddenly, he was an AM act. Same deal with Carole King. “It’s Too Late” on AM radio is what broke “Tapestry,” the album was moribund before that action, it was not being pushed on FM, most people never heard it until it came out of the radio speakers.

We can play this out with James Taylor. He released albums with less and less commercial acceptance. To the point where he ultimately jumped labels to Columbia from Warner Brothers, looking to reignite his career. And how did he do this? Via a cover of “Handy Man.” James Taylor became a cover artist, even before this. “Don’t Let Me Be Lonely Tonight” was an original from “One Man Dog,” but it was soft and so far from FM rock as to go totally unplayed on that band. Its follow-ups? DIDN’T EVEN CHART! “Hymn,” “Walking Man,” you may know them, but those who are not Taylor fans do not.

Then, at the end of his Warner tenure, James worked with Lenny Waronker and Russ Titelman and returned to form. Still, he didn’t have any original hits. “Mexico”…made it all the way to #49, “Shower the People” to #22, but “How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)”? That was a #5 hit. In other words, James was struggling for radio acceptance, and the only way he could get it was via either upbeat ditties or dirgey love songs, he was at the mercy of a world that was stacked against him.

Same thing with Carole King. One of the biggest selling albums of all time, and then…almost nothing. “Sweet Seasons,” from “Music,” the follow-up to “Tapestry,” made it to #9, but hits dried up, and her albums had less and less success until 1974, when Carole changed sound and had a #1 AM radio hit with “Jazzman” and its iconic Tom Scott solo. This was not the personal statement from deep in her gut, this was nearly fodder, a track that FM would make the sign of the cross at. And after “Wrap Around Joy,” which contained “Jazzman,” Carole’s career went in the wrong direction, she never had another hit, other than a cover of her own hit song “One Fine Day,” in 1980

So…

Joni Mitchell releases “Song to a Seagull” in 1968… Most people were unaware it came out, many are still unaware.

On her second album, “Clouds,” Joni decided to buy a bit of insurance, it contained her versions of two songs Judy Collins had already made hits, “Chelsea Morning” and “Both Sides Now, both of which were written prior to Joni’s debut. Did that help Joni make inroads? Not by much. I didn’t know a single person who owned that album simultaneous with its release.

The breakthrough was 1970’s “Ladies of the Canyon.” First and foremost it was an artistic leap forward. Secondly, it contained “The Circle Game,” a standard in the folk world that Joni was reluctant to include. People now knew who Joni Mitchell was. But it’s not like you saw “Ladies of the Canyon” everywhere, only if you were in the know.

But a year later, in 1971, Joni puts out the iconic “Blue” with no insurance, no past hits and…not a whole lot happens. It was an insiders thing. And whereas you might have heard tracks from “Ladies of the Canyon” on FM radio in 1970, “Blue” was absent from those airwaves in 1971.

So, Joni Mitchell was stuck in neutral. Someone who’d written hit songs for others, but had even less purchase on the public than her David Geffen management cohort Laura Nyro.

What Joni Mitchell needed was a hit. And by this point she’s on Asylum Records, run by the aforementioned Geffen, and he pushes her to write a radio-friendly song and she does, “You Turn Me On, I’m a Radio,” which was definitely heard on the radio, but only made it to #25 in “Billboard” and #20 in Cashbox and…the truth is the album it emanated from, “For the Roses,” was darker than “Blue” and “Ladies of the Canyon” so Joni Mitchell was a known quantity, but her LP was not flying out the door.

And then, in January of 1974, came “Court and Spark.” There were no plays for hits, nothing looking for commercial success, however the orchestration was more lush and the album had more of a sheen…there’s no way it could be cut with a dulcimer in a Greek cave, suddenly you had a sophisticate relating her story of being in Paris and…Joni had hits doing it totally her way, most significantly with “Help Me,” and of course “Free Man in Paris.” And with these insightful songs on AM radio, the young female demo that did not listen to FM rock became aware of Ms. Mitchell and found they could identify with her message and Joni became the most revered, the most exalted female artist extant. She even went on a victory lap tour where she recorded the double live album “Miles of Aisles” and then…

Waited nearly two years and released the jazz-influenced, right turn “The Hissing of Summer Lawns.” These same people, the AM ladies, were eager, they bought it and…THEY REJECTED IT! From superstar to has-been in two years. It was over for Joni, she never graced the AM airwaves again. And having destroyed her commercial career, a la Neil Young, Joni no longer had chains, people were no longer paying attention, and she recorded and released “Hejira” to almost no acceptance. It’s one of Joni’s two best works, and in some ways it’s better than “Blue,” listen to the truth in “Song for Sharon” and “Refuge of the Roads.” But the tracks didn’t comport with anybody’s idea of popular hit music. There were only two tracks shorter than five minutes long, and “Song for Sharon” clocks in at 8:40 and “Refuge of the Roads” 6:42. These tracks wouldn’t even get playlisted today. “Hejira” wasn’t background music, you had to sit in front of the speakers, listen on headphones to get it, it was a deep dive into Joni’s identity, but because it wasn’t upbeat, because it didn’t conform to anybody’s idea of radio commerciality, it barely made a dent.

And from there, Joni marched further into the wilderness. At first she seemed not to care about commercial success, and when she tried later, on her Geffen records, she seemed to have lost the key. Furthermore, these songs were less personal.

So…

“Blue” is one of the greatest albums ever made. And it’s all her, we can’t say its success was really a collaborator’s. But the accolades it is receiving on its 50th anniversary are coming to a great degree from people who weren’t even alive when it was released. Or people who were friends with Joni at the time. Context has been lost.

Forget revealing her truth. Believe me, that was not so extraordinary back in 1971, THAT’S WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT! It’s hard to believe that today, with the mindless ditties clogging up the chart, but personal expression was the game, the zenith, you wanted to open yourself up and get it all down. So it took decades for people to realize “Blue”‘s greatness, all the detritus, the imitative, the wannabe dreck had to fade away so it could shine. Kind of like the Mona Lisa. It’s got its own gallery at the Louvre. It stands alone. Exhibit it with other works and it loses its luster. Even more significantly, no one, NO ONE, has been able to replicate the formula. Looks easy, but it’s not. First and foremost, Joni was writing and playing for years before she had her success. Today people don’t put in the time and they want instant validation. Also, today people are gun-shy about revealing their truth, unless they go to the other extreme, as they do in memoirs, detailing the most heinous of activities to shock you. Joni Mitchell was just another person on the planet back in 1971, you could relate to her, she might be richer, but…

Now the truth is after all these hosannas, “Blue” is going to fade back into the woodwork. This is not the Beatles with all those radio-friendly ditties. As for people discovering “Blue” today as a result of the hype? I don’t think many will, oldsters are aware of it, have either accepted it or rejected it, and youngsters don’t see the words in the newspapers touting its value.

It was a different era. There were so many great acts and great albums that Joni Mitchell could release a masterpiece and many could shrug. Today if you cut something half as good, like Adele’s “21,” the whole world is flabbergasted. And believe me, “Blue” has legs that “21” does not.

And then there are the women without Joni’s voice. Men too. People believe lyrics are enough, they are not. As for learning to play your instrument…that takes too much time, you can buy the damn beats, why take all that time practicing off the radar screen when you can start promoting on social media today, be on your way to becoming a brand.

And then there’s Mo Ostin and Warner Brothers. He supported you if you didn’t have a hit. He signed you to a five album deal and it was assumed you’d make a record every year and get better and find yourself and at some point maybe your music and the public would align. Today Joni Mitchell wouldn’t even get signed, she wouldn’t have the data, and on top of that she doesn’t make radio-friendly music, today’s radio that is. Sure, people covered her songs, nice. But those live numbers…you play coffee shops, great, call us back when you’ve moved up to theatres.

In other words it’s a whole different environment, a whole different game. Never mind there not even being a folk scene, never mind a coffee house to play in. And it’s all about loud, that’s how they EQ the records, if it’s not in your face, it can’t break through the clutter. Oh, we’ll give a chance to quirky, but the truth is Joni Mitchell was not quirky, she was part of the mainstream, which was broad if you were a fan, after all Jethro Tull, Randy Newman, the Mothers, the Beach Boys, and Alice Cooper were all on Warner/Reprise at the time. You can’t find this diversity today, even if you look at all the acts on all the labels of Universal Music!

Then again, you have no idea of the power of music back in 1971. If you wanted to know which way the wind blew, you turned on the radio, you played a record. Making money? It was secondary to finding yourself. It was about laying down your statement. In a way nobody does today. But it’s not only music, it’s films too. The top ten grossing flicks of 1971 included “The French Connection,” “Summer of ’42,” “Carnal Knowledge,” “A Clockwork Orange” and “The Last Picture Show”…and only “French Connection” might be green-lit today.

So “Blue” was of a time. But how great is it that we have a perfect document of that era!

And the great thing about a record is you bring your own identity to it, you form your own story, in truth Joni Mitchell does not represent your fantasy, ask anybody who knows her, then again this is almost always the case with great artists, who can oftentimes do only this one great thing, they are unique, with rough edges, narcissistic, strong-willed, they need to do it their way, and we respect this because most of us don’t have the cojones, we aren’t willing to hang it all out there, to risk it. Sure, you might think you do, but no one’s paying attention to you, you don’t have a record deal, no one’s spending money on you, you have no pressure, and when you do to stay the course, hew to your values…that ain’t easy.

Then again, back then labels didn’t have the right to reject albums. They didn’t tell you to remix them. Most contracts said you just had to deliver it and they put it out. And back then no one could truly predict a hit. And hits were different. FM radio was less about generating album sales than ticket sales. And if you were lucky, you crossed over to AM radio and physical sales took off and then so did ticket sales and then…you were cursed with the blessing of having to follow it all up.

You think it’s easy? You sacrifice your life to feed the starmaking machinery and at some point, if you don’t O.D., you want to get off the wheel. Silicon Valley talks about the “flywheel,” that’s the goal, but people can’t work 24/7 ad infinitum, they break down, then again, no machine can write “Blue.”

Now I don’t think you can get “Blue” unless you’re open to it, in the right headspace. Actually, I’d tell you to start off with “Ladies of the Canyon,” then go to “For the Roses” and “Court and Spark” and then back to “Blue,” then you might get it, you might be open to it. It’d be like going on a first date with someone who opened all their wounds but also said they liked you and…if you do this, most people run away, you’ve got to dribble out your details. Unless it’s the perfect one. Who gets you, who understands you. Listening to “Blue” you thought Joni Mitchell was the perfect one, the fact that she was an artist signed to a record label didn’t enter the equation, this was a person, this was her story, and it was a snapshot in time, she’d be somewhere different next time around, as she was. Joni was not locked into a rut, she didn’t keep repeating herself. “Blue” is part of a continuum. Really, it should be seen as part of the body of work.

And no one’s got a better one in rock and roll. Except maybe the Beatles. And Bob Dylan. Then again, “Blue” is the White album with more coherence, it’s got the upbeat elements of “Abbey Road” yet it is not solely sunny and just like “Sgt. Pepper” there were no hit singles, it stands on its own. As for Zimmy…musically, Joni trumps him hands down. And Joni has never been accused of plagiarism. Joni Mitchell is an original, and in a me-too conformist world that is everything, that is what we are looking for, that’s why we’re even talking about “Blue” fifty years later. The greats break the mold. The lame are restricted by it. Fifty years ago, music was a great leap forward, and Joni Mitchell outjumped the boys, she set a record that still holds. And we can only marvel at the result.

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It’s Not A Hit

The music business has changed dramatically and no one will admit it.

I was stretching last night, one of the world’s most boring activities, so while I was doing so I was reading the Apple News on my phone and came across this article:

“Why hit songs suddenly matter more than the stars that sing them – The pop star versus the playlist – Streaming services’ playlists make it easier for listeners to find music worth playing. But experts say they’re also breaking fans’ relationships with artists.”

Unfortunately, this article is part of Vox’s “The Highlight,” an entry in the magazine’s new “Gate Keepers” issue on Apple News+, and unless you’re on a Mac paying $9.99 for the service, you can’t read it, which means it might as well not exist. That’s the power of paywalls, they stop you before you get started.

Anyway, the article clearly states that TikTok hits…can almost never be repeated. You can have a track hiding in plain sight, that’s a relative stiff, and then it can be picked up by TikTok creators and you make bank and think you’re a star but the truth is you’re a one hit wonder. Bottom line, people are fans of the track, not its creator. Extended bottom line…it’s nearly impossible to build a career these days.

Now one phenomenon of the MTV era was that if the video service shot you to the moon, you fell back to earth almost as fast. Or maybe you had a few hits and then you fell back to earth. This was the opposite of the seventies ethos, where it was all about the slow build. Today’s paradigm, where someone comes out of the gate and triumphs, even plays arenas on their first tour, that did not exist back in the seventies. Of course there were exceptions, but the exceptions were of such quality that they were undeniable. Like Elton John, who’d paid umpteen dues before his breakthrough, and Tom Scholz’s Boston. The debut Boston LP was so good, people started to hate it in principle, called it corporate rock, but the album is as fresh today as it was back then, and just as playable and still played.

Today, if you have a hit at all, it’s probably luck. And you won’t have one again.

Today’s “Washington Post” has this article: 

“The TV hit isn’t just dying — it may already be dead – Astute observers of television say that the idea of a unifying show on even a modest scale is gone. In its wake are a hundred Twitter niches — and a dangerous lack of common culture”: https://wapo.st/3xNCeM5

Bottom line…the vaunted “Mare of Easttown,” which felt like it was talked about everywhere? Only four million people watched the finale.

And there’s been an evolution, or a devolution, in viewers in just the past few years. Five years ago an episode of the “Walking Dead” had 17 million viewers. Two years ago the “Game of Thrones” finale had 20 million viewers. But that was before streaming truly took hold, before the launch of Disney+ and AppleTV+, never mind the continued inroads of Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Prime.

So there are no water cooler moments. NONE! Not enough people are watching! If you read the press, these shows are phenomena, but in truth they are not!

Just like today’s so-called hit acts.

Why tune into the Grammys if you’re unaware of the music? Sure, we live in an on demand world, no one wants to watch commercials, but who in hell would want to watch a show where they don’t know most of the music?

But the music industry trots out concert grosses to demonstrate stardom. Well, let’s say you go on a nationwide tour and sell out forty arenas. Assuming there are 20,000 seats, and very few arenas are this big, that means 800,000 people saw you, IN A COUNTRY OF 332 MILLION!

Now it used to be that radio brought us together, you may not have owned the record, you may not have gone to the show, but you knew the music. But today’s youngsters don’t listen to radio, despite the hogwash pushed down our throats by the terrestrial radio industry. And oldsters? They don’t want to listen to music, certainly not new music.

Music breaks and lives online today. But there are many more records than TV shows, what makes you think people are focused on any one act?

I hate to bring up Taylor Swift, whose record label is constantly telling us she’s breaking sales records, despite manipulating said figures through vinyl sales, et al, but she went on a stadium tour a few years back AND DIDN’T GO CLEAN! Back in the days of the Stones stadium tours, in the world of today’s Stones stadium tours, every ticket is sold, at exorbitant prices. But not Taylor Swift. Because this is heresy, I point you to the BBC, a more trusted outlet than music websites:

“Does it matter if tours don’t sell out?”: https://bbc.in/3gP0LuE

I don’t necessarily agree with all the reasoning postulated, but the fact is there, not only Taylor Swift, but Beyonce couldn’t sell out her stadium dates. If you click through to the article, you’ll see these tweets:

“I was walking down the street earlier and I literally tripped as I waded through free Taylor Swift tickets” Darren Geraghty

“I am now the last person in the greater Dublin area that has not been offered a free Taylor Swift ticket” Fiona Hyde

This information was hiding in plain sight, but conventional wisdom is Swift’s stadium tour was a raging success. And she’s supposedly the biggest act out there and she can’t go clean?

There’s a fascinating diatribe waiting to be written about disinformation, about how the truth does not out, and we can start with politics, but that’s not my point here. Turns out most people don’t want to see Taylor Swift, EVEN IF IT’S FREE!

So those songs in the Spotify Top 50, today’s number one consumption chart, forget the manipulated “Billboard,” they have a fraction of the reach of the hits of the past, of even a few years back. It’s the same damn people listening to the same damn songs over and over and over again.

As for playlists… The platform is more powerful than the music. It’s about what Spotify chooses to playlist more than the quality and lasting power of any of the tracks. People want music, but not necessarily your music. And if it feels like no one is listening to you, THAT’S PROBABLY TRUE! As for being unable to make a living making music… Well, it turns out there’s too much choice and you’re not that big, not everyone can make a living. Furthermore, there’s only a hundred cents in the dollar, Spotify literally can’t pay you more. It FEELS like you’re getting ripped-off, but you’re not!

So, the music industry is throwing songs against the wall to see what sticks. But the tastemakers are not traditional gatekeepers, but regular folk on social media platforms. You can playlist a song all day long on Spotify but it won’t turn it into a hit, you need external forces to do that.

So, we are not minting new superstars, and those stars we are creating are smaller than ever, and if the whole scene doesn’t make sense to you, if you think people are creating lowest common denominator stuff to try to go viral on social media platforms, YOU’RE RIGHT!

What we’ve got is utter chaos. There are charts, all kinds of traditional metrics that fit the old but are completely out of date and don’t fit the new. It’d be like reading Tesla sold 1,000 cars. Then again, Tesla gets more ink than sales.

And it’s not only adults, kids don’t know most of these acts either. They might know more than the adults, but no one can know them all.

And this is all working against the music industry, music has sacrificed its power in pursuit of an old paradigm, world domination, that is no longer possible. You can make it appear possible, it can FEEL possible, but it’s impossible.

So you might as well create and promote more lasting, more valuable music, to build careers, but that does not square with the short term mentality of the record labels, never mind the other players in the food chain. Those who work at the labels don’t own them, they’re contracted employees, they want those hits now, so they can get paid NOW!

So maybe you’ve never heard Phoebe Bridgers. But then you keep reading about her and check her out and you say to yourself…THIS IS IT?

Or maybe Olivia Rodrigo, whose lyrics are speaking truth but whose tracks are far from cutting edge.

And then you tune out completely.

But the young and brain dead keep playing a track over and over and a number is totaled and held up as representative of a worldwide smash WHEN IT’S NOT!

As for Phoebe Bridgers, she does not have a single track in nine digits on Spotify…and twenty or forty million might seem like a lot to you, but Clairo, an act I’d never heard of until I read the paid-for hype in HitsDailyDouble, has six tracks in nine figures. One with 277 million streams, another with 237 million. Jody Gerson said listening to Clairo was like listening to Carly Simon and Joni Mitchell, check Clairo out, if you agree, you must be on UMPG’s payroll.

And it’s not like I need to pick on any of the acts above, BUT THEY’RE THE BIGGEST ONES OUT THERE, AND THEY’RE NOT THAT BIG!

But you won’t read about this in rah-rah ignorant “Billboard.” Generally speaking you won’t read about this at all. But it’s true, a hit just ain’t what it used to be.