More Boston

Re: BOSTON

This was the most memorable musical encounter in my 12-year A&R career at Epic Records.
One late afternoon my friend and colleague Lennie Petze brought Paul Ahern to my office and asked if I would listen to a cassette Paul brought him.
We stepped into A&R head Steve Popovich’s office (Steve was out of town and had the best sound system), and played the first song, “More Than A Feeling” . Halfway through the next song I stopped the cassette and jokingly asked Paul and Lennie “Is this Candid Camera”?
I couldn’t believe something this good was being dropped in our lap.
No audition. No club showcase. No rehearsal room performance. We didn’t even have to leave the building.
I called Steve right away and asked if we could promise Paul a deal with the provision that Lennie and I first saw the band perform.
We saw them a few weeks later at Aerosmith’s rehearsal facility — I think it was in Waltham, a Boston suburb.
At that time I didn’t have sufficient producer credentials to be assigned the project, but we had recently hired a more experienced guy named John Boylan to be on the A&R staff.
And the rest, of course, is history.

Tom Werman

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When I was at WMMS/Cleveland, Steve Popovich would occasionally call to get my opinion on a new rock act he had a hand in signing.

It might have been sometime in the summer of 1975, Pop called to say, “I really like this, man. Lemme send you this. It’s from your old neck of the woods. Tell me if you like it.” It was the Tom Scholz/Brad Delp Boston demo tape.

I listened. It blew me away. Especially “More than A Feeling” – all seven minutes of it.

I called Pop back and said it’s what album rock is looking for – and an edit of “More than A Feeling” would be a CHR crossover summertime hit. He replied that “More Than A Feeling” should be edited – even on the album (“Leave ‘em wanting more”) and he wanted to change the name an lyrics to “San Francisco Day,” since the band was named Boston (It became “Hitch A Ride” on the album). Then he asked me if I heard of Paul Ahern, who was managing them. I told him the “Horse with No Name” story and that he had “the ear.”

Later than year, the Boston album showed up in the mail at WMMS the weekend before it was to be released – with no return address. We threw it on the air immediately.

Popovich called the next day. “What da ya think?” I told him. replied, “I hope you said it was a ‘world premiere exclusive.’ You were the first station in the world to play it.”

John Gorman

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I was road managing a popular regional band called Duke & the Drivers in Boston..we were playing the Cape Cod Coliseum and my great friend Charlie McKenzie who was the ABC/Dunhill promo rep at the
time made me listen to a demo called “More than A Feeling” .which of course blew me away..he could not stop raving about this guy Tom Scholz..Charlie partnered with former Asylum National Promo Director Paul Ahern and I specifically remember sitting with a group of friends in the living room of WBCN salesman Kenny Greenblatt’s apt. while the name “Boston” was being thrown around…eventually I went with Charlie to Tom’s basement studio in Watertown, MA to deliver him some equipment Charlie was planning on having me road manage the band..but after some small talk with Tom and my complete lack of knowledge of anything electronic.. he squashed that idea immediately..LOL..The audition for Epic’s Lenny Petze at Aerosmith’s Warehouse space was filled with BCN family and friends…I remember those early days so well Paul was in LA mostly and Charlie’s “office” was a phone in a small lake house that Kenny Greenblatt had in Littleton, MA..The period after the release of “More than a Feeling’ was amazing !!! It took off so fast and especially those first royalty checks that changed so many lives!!! The first gig was opening for the Drivers in Waltham Ma…then Black Sabbath tour and the rest is history…unfortunately there was a falling out with Tom and Paul and Charlie…and sadly we lost Charlie in 2002.What an amazing ride and I will always remember those amazing early days with the original band and Brad’s amazing voice…!!! And the 6x Platinum Record on Charlie’s wall !!!

Thanks,
Peter Wassyng

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As a member of the Nils Lofgren Band we opened for Boston a few times. After our set we all waited and checked them out.
They killed, it was better then the record! Brad was like an angel. With a voice like his you would think he would be arrogant, he was not.
After the shows he would hang around and talk and compliment our band on how we sounded. He was a beautiful soul.
We opened for a lot of groups back then, but Boston lived up to their music hands down. Lucky to have saw them.

Wornell Jones

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Great article on Boston. My band Boulevard had The pleasure of opening for them in 1989 across canada and one date in Seattle. What amazing experience that was to tour with your heroes! As you pointed out Brad Delp was probably one of the most amazing human beings you’ll ever meet and of course possibly the Premier rock singer of all time!

Tom was certainly the obvious genius but also not entirely a social creature. He pretty much played hoops backstage all day while the ever humble brad chatted with us between sound checks and Tried to secure a better golden eagle bus for our band seeing as the heat had gone out on ours and it was -40 in Winnipeg! Yikes.

They brought a pipe organ !!

They had not played in years and brad was so excited to just get out and will that he almost blew his voice the first night back. He calmed down after that but still sang like a bird.
Could probably write a whole pile more but the biggest memory was really how amazingly down to earth these guys were. Humble and kind and NOT rock stars. Just happy to be out playing some of the best rock songs ever written!

I was glad to have had that opportunity in my lifetime!
To hear what happened to brad broke my heart. He was the best
Cheers.

Andrew Johns.

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Of course I threw the album on having not heard it in a while. My 4yr old walked in to the kitchen as I was making him breakfast, Foreplay / Long Time was on.

He listened intently for about 6 seconds and said “Dad, please add this song to my Spotify playlist.”

Love witnessing that instantaneous connection when the song and the sound makes you know you need more of it.

Cheers,
Steve Andrews

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Love your rants, Bob. Almost as much fun are the memories posted in your “mailbag”.So if you don’t mind….
In ’76 I was 20, running a popular surf shop in Ocean City, MD For some reason EVERYBODY wanted to look like a surfer and had to have a Sunshine House t-shirt, so we were mobbed all summer. We were also known for always having great music playing on good equipment (Marantz, Bose, etc.) Every night at closing/clean-up time, we’d crank up the tunes for one last hurrah. One night I have the new Boston album playing (loud!), and a friend walks in smiling and grooving and says “who’s this?” and I launch into my own rant about how the Rolling Stones are no longer the greatest rock and roll band on the planet….. Well, I guess that was only true for one album, but what an album! 44 years later, it still resonates, and when you hear it, you automatically reach for the volume.. If that’s not the mark of a HOF recording….

Thanks for all your writing,
All the best,

Jay Maher

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Tom Scholz cares about people like few realize, you just have to be on the right side of the line and then he’s a mensch proper – now of course, that may exempt a few band mates (but that’s a thing musicians hold to themselves) and a lot of industry folk (not Harvey) (Hey Harvey!)

Outside the industry, Tom is as big hearted and keen to help and assist expecting nothing in return, I’ve been there as he donated to save endangered wildlife, never seeking attention for it, and keeping in touch with the front line, there

Brad Delp, as friendly and folksy as Robert Plant, sad story, yet no one looked after the tour crew family more than Brad and if you had it in you, he was always game to go see sunrise with his beloved camera gear. Had an eye for architecture, too.

Smart guys, as Boston Mass tends to spit out

Dennis Pelowski

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Thank you for reminding me about Boston!
I love it!

Richard Griffiths

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Those first 3 albums were majestic. I only got into Boston on Third Stage and then went back to discover the beauty. There was nothing fake about the songs. Long live Boston!!!!

fernando tavares

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Bob, my wife & some friends caught Brad’s Beatlejuice band in a lounge outside of Boston. His ability to do both John & Paul was jawdropping & at the break, he made the rounds & said hello to every table. Just seemed like a genuine nice guy (with enormous talent). It was such a shock to hear about his passing. Truly missed & a timeless LP. Best, Jeff/Maine

Jeff Hayward

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Not sure if you ever watched, or cared about, the show “Scrubs”, but they had an amazing episode where they auditioned members of a lip sync/air guitar band, and the end of the episode features Donald Faison and the staff of the hospital lip syncing to “More Than a Feeling”. It’s one of my favorite moments of TV in the last 20 years.

youtu.be/I0jxRwp3V5Q

Jonnie Bock

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It was early September 1976 when I first heard “More Than A Feeling” on WAAF in Worcester and owned it 12 hour later. A morning trip to Strawberries downtown (skipped school) because I just had to have it. I honestly wore the album out over the next year.

Just last week I pulled out Tom’s remaster to vet a rehabbed Marantz 2270 and Bose 901’s. I nearly cried it was so damn good. Tom and Brad created something just this side of magic in that Watertown basement. So original and visionary. Not a bad moment on the entire record.

Chris Herrmann

PS – Check out Rich Beato’s take on “More Than A Feeling.” youtu.be/ynFNt4tgBJ0

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You nailed it. More Than A Feeling, a song I’d press the station buttons in the car hoping catch it, which wasn’t hard for a long while, it was ubiquitous. Couldn’t buy the LP fast enough. The soundtrack of junior year of high school ski club in Buffalo, 45 minute bus ride from school to Kissing Bridge, might hear a Boston tune 2-3 times. They were the first concert I ever saw, The Aud in Buffalo, Cheap Trick opened, and was nearly booed from the stage. No one had heard them yet, and too much excitement for Boston. Don’t Look Back was a really good record but seemed like outtakes from the debut. But the debut, whew!

It’s A Long Way There was a terrific tune by LRB, their debut record was excellent.

Jack Powers

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Rundgren admitted to trying to cop Boston on this song. Truth be told I like it better than anything Boston ever did. I never bought into their sound. Too slick for me. Different strokes.

youtu.be/Yff2w8P3tQw

Peter Kuehl

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I want to pick up on something a writer mentioned. After Boston, Brad formed a Beatles cover band called Beatlemania that played mostly in the Eastern New England area. But their home club was Johnny D’s in Somerville, MA. I hate cover bands, but my wife dragged me to see them.

No Beatle costumes – just a bunch of regular guys up there warming up.

When Brad started to sing, John Lennon’s voice came out of his mouth. It was uncanny. After a few songs, I said to my wife: Brad is perfect as Lennon, but what is he gonna do when they do songs featuring the others. A couple of songs later, it was like George Harrison was on stage. It was a perfect imitation. I was awestruck. As you can guess he went on to do a perfect McCartney voice in the next set and even sprinkled in a few Ringo songs.

Unbelievable performance, that speaks to the pure talent of Brad Delp. We all thought he would keep performing at Johnny D’s for years to come. RIP, Brad.

Dam Delurey

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When the album first broke I was driving south on Hwy 101 in Marin County and held to pull over

Years later I find out my college roommate, an MIT grad in EE and also a musician was hired by Tom to help design the Rockman, the little Walkman like device that you used to plug your guitar in to practice to with headphones. They had a sound option built in that allowed you to sound like the thousand guitar sound Tom created on the records. They would only learn later that kids across the country were buying them, then rewiring them to play through their amplifiers live on stage

Because everyone wanted that sound.

they ended up developing a whole line of amps with that sound option built in to it to capture that market Tom knew a thing or two

Barry Schneier

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A Boston cover by an incredible cover band from Australia

youtu.be/KLR1B1rO790

Hindley Street Country Club is a band from Australia that has been releasing a great cover song every Friday since Coronavirus started.

This is the best version of a Boston song I’ve ever heard.

They are exploding all over the world. People are surfing the internet and found this band.

They are the world’s best cover band and am looking forward to seeing them to the US when this crazy Corona is done.

Best,
Mike Flanagin

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—The Brazilians have a word (saudade) that expresses a simultaneous happy/sad which so captures much of that country’s great music. This quality is apparent in MORE THAN A FEELING…who cannot relate to its sentiment of the joy of music alongside “and dream of a girl I used to know….She slipped away”

Harold Love is entitled to his opinion, though clearly he has not heard the lyrics. Methinks he is confusing polished production with lack of soul.

sofu_gan

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Every reason punk rock happened was Boston!

Vince Bannon

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A little late on the reply – But, the irony of Boston be labeled “corporate rock” when the project was about as Indie/DIY as it could possibly be! One guy, with a day gig, cobbling together tracks in his basemen home studio Essentially, just him with Brad on the singing. That’s indie. Then there’s the whole story of Epic insisting it needed to be re-recored (classic major label wisdom) and John Boylan running interference with the label to keep Scholz working primarily in his own basement (vs. a “real” studio).

Also, I remember reading that Cobain said was going for a “More Than A Feeling” type riff gone wrong approach on “Smells Like Teen Spirit” – kinda sounds like it.

Boston debut might be one of the greatest “indie” albums of all time – Also, it was totally a game changer sonically.

Cheers : )

G. DaPonte
Joshua Tree C

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The first Boston album is truly a masterpiece and still sounds as fresh and exciting as it did when it was released some 44 years ago.
Tom Scholz knocked it out of the park!
Great songs, flawless performances, completely innovative guitar sounds and Brad Delp’s incredible lead and background vocals.

I had the distinct honor of playing drums for Boston on their single “God Rest Ye Metal Gentlemen”.
I also played drums for Boston on a live radio broadcast concert when they were promoting the fifth Boston studio album “Corporate America”.
It was truly amazing getting to perform songs off that debut album like “Peace Of Mind” “More Than A Feeling” & “Smokin’’ with the great Tom Scholz and Brad Delp. I get chills thinking about it.

Thank you for writing about Boston and this amazing album.

Tom Hambridge

Even More Covid

I am the mayor of Prince Edward County (PEC), a small municipality in eastern Ontario with a permanent population of 25,000. Our community is blessed with a vibrant winery and ecotourism economy as well as a rich historical and agricultural heritage, and 800 KM of Lake Ontario shoreline that includes some of the most notable fresh water beaches in Canada if not the world. We are situated generally equidistant from Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa and their cumulative population of about 8 million people. We have a significant reliance on that population to drive our economy, particularly during the summer.

The pandemic resulted in multiple closures of various attractions and amenities in Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal – COVID hotspots this summer – forcing people to look elsewhere for at least some semblance of a vacation this summer. The result was an influx of visitors to PEC unlike we have ever seen before – estimates range from 1 million to 1.5 million people.

Recognizing early in May the threat “hotspot” outsiders posed to our community, we lobbied hard with the provincial health officials and were successful in passing a mandatory municipal mask bylaw that applied to any member of the public entering any businesses or open public spaces; fines for violation are in the neighborhood of $750 per person.

Appropriate and consistent media/social media messaging, signage and other PR conveyed the importance of wearing a face covering to keep case counts low. The net effect is that we have one of the lowest numbers of confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ontario.

Our residents, businesses and visitors demonstrated that masks work. To any naysayers – and there are a few – please suck it up and put on a mask for the sake of your friends, family and the community.

And Bob, if you are in nearby Toronto or Montreal, come visit. We are also very rich with a vibrant music community that includes many people – now residents – you have met or know by reputation.

Steve Ferguson, Mayor, Prince Edward County, Ontario

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Bob, I’m late but had to share. Three of my adult children have been running around like normal. In groups up to 30 or so. Pictures at parties, no mask, all up on each other smiling laughing. Having a good damn time. A couple of them came to Cali for work and wanted to stop by and visit. I had to think hard and long about it and finally had to say “sorry we’ve been sheltering in place since this began. You’re not on a vacation. You’re going to be here for work mad around even more people that you don’t know what they’ve been doing” well I can tell you that didn’t go over well at all. BUT I guess they still don’t get it as their Grandmother died in a nursing home recently…from Covid. Now nursing home patient don’t go outside. So how does the virus get to them? From employees who bring it into the facility. I have it on good authority that some (low level and low pay) caregivers are partying their asses off when off duty.

Kenneth Williams

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My husband, a retired musician & I have been staying home. We get our groceries delivered and might have gone to an outdoor restaurant where the staff all wear masks perhaps a few times over these past months however we are in the minority in SW Florida. I think our acquaintances in this area think we are crazy. It’s not necessary to tell you who they supported in the election.

We lost a local musician friend to complications to COVID and my cousin in a nursing home. COVID-19 is very real but try to explain to the locals here? I still have hope for the future!

Iona Elliott

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Thank you Bob and Mr. Punaway for sharing that real life Covid19 experience. Everyone I see here in CT is wearing masks and avoiding mass gatherings. Hard to believe about a year ago, I was at a big song circle in this back room at a pub in Danbury/Bethel CT with like, 25 guitar strummers, wannabe vocalists, and other assorted local musicians, and we were all singing out, shouting out, spitting out fumes…etc. We’d done it for five years in various places that would have us…

The last pub quickly closed as Covid hit, and most of us went into hermit mode. It was great while it lasted, but I get this feeling that those days are gone forever…but me, “have guitar won’t travel.” As the old musician joke goes, “I’ll just play with myself.” But again, thanks for spreading the good words.

Chip Lovitt

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We are infected by dumbfucks who then infect innocents.

Stay away from dumbfucks.

Greg DeMammos

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Jillian Michaels, (from the Biggest Loser) has a podcast. She got covid from a friend at a small get together. There’s an episode about it in her podcast. It’s full of great information. I highly recommend that you check it out.

Tracy Lipp

Apple Podcast Link: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/too-famous-for-covid/id418368811?i=1000489612339

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Went in to pick up take out Mexican last nite & there was a 20 something in the waiting area without a mask – my mind started racing as much as if he had a gun! Stupid is gonna kill

Wallace Collins

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I see masks as a sort of A-hole indicator.
Normally, we’d be walking around in the midst of such people, and the only time you’d know they were blinkered and selfish would be quite late in an interaction.
Now you can see them a mile off, because they’re not wearing a mask!

Cheers
Crispin Herrod-Taylor

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This Wired article yesterday changed 2 of my family members minds about traveling to gather on thanksgiving. The interactive map showing how likely they were to interact with someone with COVID stopped them in their tracks. Of course others will say this is fake news.

www.wired.com/story/thinking-about-a-holiday-gathering-look-at-this-map/

This Sam Harris podcast about the response is a great listen for us industry folks.

open.spotify.com/episode/7EYgfJ0ukcq1f1Rp7AfFMV?si=NiXoffjVRRCk7rW8nLw6Vg

Gigante

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To Dave Machanick, one of your responders.
Fauci said very early on not to wear a when masks were scarce or not available to
healthcare workers, he didn’t want the general public hoarding masks.
As soon as masks became available Fauci said to wear them.
People are so pro Trump, they love to make up shit and blame anyone but there cult leader.
Thanks
Bob

Robert Pisaneschi

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I too expected more in terms of people wearing a mask, but then remembered that our country had to make laws (and recently at that) to make people wear seatbelts, wear motorcycle helmets, and not smoke in restaurants while families are eating. And folks still complain about those laws.
Apex predators indeed.

Thank you for being responsible and as always, speaking your mind.

Adam Keller

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Thank you for sharing this ‘reality check’ of these tragic stories from many talented musicians.
Perhaps this will hit home and help others to realize the seriousness of this Pandemic. This is not a party issue. It is life and death. It is global. It is personal.
Kathleen

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I am haunted by the thought that we built ships, planes, trains, trucks, jeeps, and a relentless stream of armaments when
we needed to, to win a World War, but the simple act of wearing a mask to protect our families, our coworkers
and other people we care about is just too much to ask.

The very idea is despicable.

Onward.

Rich Binell

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I have a friend over 60, obese, high blood pressure and diabetes. I’m 62 in good shape, but vulnerable due to my age. I’ve known my friend since the 8th grade. He keeps telling me I won’t get COVID. I’ve quit speaking with him. What a jackass!!!!

Tim Pringle

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Jourdian – Really? You are going to pimp your tour during a pandemic as a response to an email about how you will probably get COVID from your friends and family.

Steigman – We can debate all you want about Rogan being a comedian, or if he is the most important voice in media for most of America, but he still can’t tell a “the building is on fire” joke in a crowded theatre just as it was wrong for him to say “masks are for pussies” when he knows his “theatre” of 100 million people listens intently to what he has to say and most won’t realize it is a joke.

Also, all you had to do in Feb was look at Twitter to know something bad was headed this way. China welding people into 20 story buildings so they would not spread it to each other was enough for me to tell most of the people I knew to start getting a few weeks of food stored up.

Michael Patterson

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How about the idiots that wear a mask, to cover their mouth, but not their nose? What are they thinking?
Are they too lazy to do the right thing, or just stupid?
Lin in Honolulu

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Here’s a good one: I started a health plan with a coach during CoVid. Dropped about 50 pounds so far, but that’s not the story here….

The coach is a millennial – I know her aunt very well. She’s a millennial and she’s also an Orthodox Jew – married at 20 (she’s about 32 now) with three kids. She doesn’t read the news (or watch tv) but gets her news off of TikTok and whatever social media sites she can find. Trump supporter and conspiracy believer.

I started coaching (still producing virtual content at NJPAC as my day job)- and she tells me she’s having this event for coaches – small and in a hotel ballroom.

Well, turns out it’s not in a ballroom but a home they rented, and there will be 80 people there. No real space between chairs, and didn’t see a whole lot of masks (from photos, since I passed on attending a super spreader event). Should I have turned them in – don’t know. But god knows how many people there will be passing along this virus and where it could go.

Seriously … what the fuck is wrong with people..?!!!?

Simma Levine

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I have been holed up in my upper West side apartment with my 97-year-old jazz composer mom has offers from Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s. I don’t go out nobody comes in it’s been like this since well before Covid even happened. My mother and I are probably the only two people in Manhattan who have never been tested for Covid. And I plan to keep it that way.

I left Los Angeles and have not seen my husband my cat my dog or my parakeets since Feb 2019.

I went home for two weeks to play a gig at Nam for Sennheiser pick up a couple of T-shirts one of my parrots and come back to New York to hunker down with my mom.

Her birthday was November 7 she just turned 97. The best present in the world was the fact that the reign of terror is over and she lived to see it end. Even better it was official on her birthday.

Cheers.

Liane Curtis. 16 candles and other stuff

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America has been lying to itself about what it is and how it functions since it’s creation. The virus has lifted the vail to the international community only dumb Ass Americans believe that this country is great. It’s good In some ways but overall this country lies steals and cheats it’s own people each and every day. Ultimately I think america will be rome and self destruct implode if you will. Income inequality homelessness lack of a living wage lack of healthcare subpar educational systems and a love affair with money power and greed and celebrity. If that isn’t a description of Rome at the end I don’t know what is!!

Mazi Ray

P.S. Funny how men always take the macho rout and everything else is pussy. Trump is perfect example of this. Manhood is not defined by macho behavior but in America acting tough is an example of manhood. I will take the environment I grew up in as an example. In the so called “hood” you run into this shit all the time with gang bangers and the like. A bunch of dudes trying to act tough as a way to prove their manhood. It is this toxic masculinity that gets innocent people called all over the place.

Manhood starts with self respect and self awareness. If you can’t respect yourself how do you respect anybody else. Trump got COVID because he was too “tough” to do the things to protect himself. That is a lack of respect for himself, why, because he knows he is old and has pre existing conditions. He said fuck that to himself and risked death all to appear manly and tough. He lost the election because he has no awareness of who he is. He projects what he wants to be. That’s not being a grown man that’s little boy shit.

Males need to grow up and be men and stop running around beating in their chests liked Neanderthals. It’s 2020 got damn it, it’s time for true men and adults of good will to have our turn at making the world a better place!

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You might find this interesting…

www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(20)30462-4/fulltext

people.com/health/study-finds-link-to-mental-health-problems-after-contracting-coronavirus/

As a health care worker (Clinical Services Manager, Perioperative Services, Children’s Hospital Los Angeles), I thank you for covering this issue.

Ally Fell

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Well, first Mr Grahame: When you say “like everyone in my age category without any underlying health conditions I came through unscathed” – that is simply 100% incorrect. Plenty of otherwise healthy people under 60 have died from COVID-19, including well-known physically active professional athletes and performers. You can always find countries to compare the USA with, there are nearly 200 other countries, but…the percentage rates of confirmed cases, hospitalizations and deaths are significantly lower in so many countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Iceland, ROC/Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam, etc) that you can’t say otherwise. You can, of course, try to go “shopping” for countries that tried mask mandates and it didn’t work, but that doesn’t mean “there are no differences in the infection rate” in all countries. “Whether the cure is worth the disease.” Really? This is a DEADLY INFECTIOUS VIRUS. Any cure is better than potentially dying and/or being responsible for the death of friends and family.

And as for Leah Haxhi, perhaps we should take you up on your offer to stay in your house for the rest of your life and spare us from your presence. You’ve fallen prey to conspiracy theories and think you’re too smart to have done so. The whole “vaccines cause autism” is a conspiracy theory hoax that has been repeatedly disproven and yet lives on. I’m not even sure the increase in autism has anything to do with diet and processed foods, though I don’t disagree that for many people the regular American diet is unhealthy and processed foods do seem to be far less healthy than unprocessed foods. I’m no expert, but I’m thinking that the rise in autism is more about improved diagnosis. As for Jeffrey Epstein, there absolutely WERE legitimate news sources, primarily in South Florida (The New Times and the Miami Herald, for example) as well as national publications, that were reporting on him all along. If you don’t trust your doctors, change doctors. Your doctors are telling you that vaccines are safe and effective because they are. Again, I won’t disagree that some doctors are too quick to prescribe medications instead of trying alternatives (especially with pain killers, muscle relaxers, etc), but not all. Vaccines have effectively ended polio, smallpox and many other scourges, and those vaccinations were essentially government-mandated to protect ALL of us (I remember getting them in elementary school en masse with nobody opting out). The flu vaccines prevent 50-70% of the flu every year, and I like those odds. They aren’t 100% effective because the flu is a moving target, changing every year and with multiple strains. And birth control pills work. Yes, there are known side effect that impact a small percentage of women, but they are remarkably effective. You can always rely on condoms used by your partner, but those aren’t 100% guaranteed either, or you can try abstinence, or other preventive measures. But your doctor is right. Doctors go to school for years, and then do residencies, and finally become qualified to diagnose and treat patients, and modern medicine is AMAZING.

And Dave Machanik actually wrote “Trump was a mixed bag of good and bad.” Really? There was, unless you are part of highest 1% of wage earners or CEO of huge company both reaping tax benefits that the rest of us are paying for, good?

And, one more: Jonathan Steigman, Joe Rogan was not joking. If he’s a purported comedian, he might want to work on actually being funny occasionally.

Toby Mamis

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More Covid

Thanks for this Bob.

I am a musician currently recovering from Covid.  I live in Nashville and have been playing live shows here in town 1-2 times a week.  I don’t know how I would pay my bills without the gigs.  There is no safety net for people like me.

By the looks of Downtown Nashville on a daily basis, you would never know there’s a pandemic raging.  There are lines out the door to get into my shows and nobody wears a mask inside.  The culture down there is very much anti-mask, pro-party.

I was hoping for the best until I started feeling like shit.  Got the test and sure enough, I was positive.  So many musician friends of mine have been infected – the majority of the gigging musicians at this point at least in my circle.  It’s only a matter of time until the spike in hospitalizations and deaths is unbearable here in Nashville.

Musicians here are having to make the excruciating decision of taking proper health precautions or risk not being able to pay their bills, being evicted and complete financial devastation.

I am fortunate that I will probably fully recover, however I am on pins and needles monitoring my mom’s symptoms as she was with me prior to me knowing I was infected.  She’s 76.  God help us.

-Jay Bragg
Nashville, TN

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Thanks for this Bob.I would even say that pneumonia vaccine  important for younger Demo as well. I am 36 and had double pneumonia with covid in March and then pneumonia again about 2 months ago and only wish I had gotten the pneumonia vaccine prior. I can only hope this hasn’t left lingering damage to my lungs but only time will tell. I have probably paid my Pulmologist’s office rent this year and still am not out of the woods. The long hauler thing is very real. Its just so unfortunate our asshole soon to be former president “downplayed” it. So many people like myself might have had a chance to better protect themselves if awareness and alarm had been raised back in feb. Most people still don’t understand the severity of the virus bc of the lies he and sycophants spread about it . I also agree with you in that I think every single person I know has been hypocritical when it comes to virus safety. They chastise but  when it comes to themselves I see no sacrifice and a severe lack of common sense from generally smart people. It’s a shame.

Best
Jarred Arfa

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My wife is an RN at one of the major NY hospital systems. The first wave was devastating for not only those infected and their families, but for the frontline workers including my wife. She’d go to work each day and spend 10 hour shifts intubating patients, flipping their bodies and then watching them get carted outside to the mobile refrigeration unit (temporary morgue). The toughest part for her was lending her cell phone to COVID patients to call loved ones telling them they are going to be intubated. Most of the time, it was the last interaction they had with their families. This went on for weeks. Drives me crazy when I hear people talk about the crisis as a hoax and not take it seriously. People are so selfish and misinformed – and the rot starts at the top with the soon-to-be former president and his team of imbeciles.

Here is hoping people take this next wave seriously and we all act as a cohesive unit and care for one another and not just ourselves. Maybe that’s a pipe dream.

Julian Schubach

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I’ve been struggling so much with this part of it, that it’s spreading amongst our close contacts because everyone’s interpreting the guidelines differently.  The idea of not letting my kid see her grandparents and her friends.  We already keep her home for virtual school (one of 3 remote in her 26 kid class – our county votes 70% Republican – wonder if there’s a connection there), and we’re so lucky that she’s excelling, that she’s in kindergarten and never really knew what school was prior to COVID.  We’ve been outdoors all summer, hiking and swimming and playing putt-putt and embarking on every adventure that we can where we can that’s AWAY from others.  But yesterday was the last unseasonably warm day, and it’s cold and dreary and gets dark at 5pm now, and this is our life for the next 5 months.  My business (talent buyer for clubs and theatres with Audiotree in Michigan / Chicago) has been completely obliterated and maybe we’ll come back at this time next year or maybe 2022 if any of us make it that long, but I’m blessed beyond belief to have an owner who’s still paying me to plan for the future, and my wife (dance teacher), it’s not safe for her to go back to work, so we’re just at home, all day.  If COVID doesn’t kill us, those of us in cold weather states may just kill those we live with by the time April rolls around.

But when grandma calls and wants to visit, it’s so hard to say no, you can’t come over, you’re not taking this seriously enough, you’re not wearing masks out and about, you’re still going to church and the weekly car show and your friends’ houses.  Mom, you’re gonna die.  Or you’re gonna kill Dad, or one of your friends.  You’ve got good years left, put a goddamned mask on, stop going out.  That conversation’s hard enough about a normal Wednesday evening dinner.  But with the holidays coming, it’s gonna get REAL dark, and I’m scared about it.  Never mind that they’re big Trump supporters and that conversation is so loaded and emotional right now.

I follow you for your takes on our music business, but I appreciate most your takes on real life.  This one hit home.  Stay safe out there.

Nate Dorough
Audiotree

Hartland, MI

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Hey Bob You can add me to that small list . Thank you for all this latest insight  though. Malibu until very recently has been Maskless Malibu and you are right, mind-blowing how people think they wont get it from close friends .

This one had my attention from having worked with two people who died early to an array of friends artists and colleagues of various broad age groups geograpghy etc and the day to day experiences of some of them has been chilling. Anyway I hope we both make it through and finally get to meet up again after so long best Howard Paar

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Thanks for sharing that. As a singer,  my last gig was March 11th, the day Massachusetts declared a State of Emergency.  I was invited to participate in a private event for cabaret performers in May. I didn’t feel comfortable. One attendee spent 2 weeks in an ICU, and 6 weeks in rehab.

It is not worth it.

But for performers, particularly singers,  this soul crushing, isolating and frustrating.

We need a national mask mandate now.

Jeanne Crowley

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Thank you, Bob, for sharing this with your subscribers. I only hug my 23 year son after his negative COVID tests. I never thought I would write a sentence like that.

Best,
Andrew Gross

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I play in a band in rural Wayne County PA. We moved from our somewhat cramped rehearsal room to a large 2 car garage with doors and windows open and plenty of distancing. At first, since most of us don’t interact with people much,  only our bassist wore a mask because she’s a farmer and had to go to markets in NYC. Now we all do except the singers when singing. It’s gonna suck when it gets cold, but after very few, slowly increasing cases, we’ve had 33 new ones in our county in just the last 10 days, so we aren’t taking any chances-short of not playing anymore, of course. That’s unthinkable.

Pam Arnold (drummer for Beat the Devil)

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I don’t understand how masks became a partisan issue.
I think Trump was a mixed bag of good and bad.
Possibly the worst thing he did was set a terrible example by not wearing a mask all the time.
The CDC and Fauci did not help either. Masks for everyone was so obvious – reduces risk.
Staying home and avoiding crowds – reduces risks.
The whole country needs a lesson on risk reduction.

Another sad story of our times are the special needs children and adults.
My oldest son (severely autistic and blind) used to go to a dayhab that had to close and is struggling to survive.
Fortunately his group home has been able to stay afloat and pick up the slack.
Both are non-profit – which I recommend for anyone with special needs. Making a profit from looking after special needs is not a good business model for the kids or the business.

Regards,
Dave Machanick

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This is so terrible. 1000+ Americans a day are dying of secondhand stupidity.

Paul Gigante

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I have been saying everything that you have covered since the start, and I have a daughter who is also in 100% agreement too, in fact she pointed me to this letter.

I too have a highly compromised immune system thanks to Myasthenia Gravis treatment, consisting of Prednisone & Retuximab. The latter to replace the Cellcept that was reducing my white blood cell count!

I also have all the shots – flu, pneumonia, shingles etc, etc. If it’s offered I take it! Can’t afford not to.

I have not been to a shop, restaurant or bar since the end of February. All shopping done via Instacart. The only place I go is to my local Kaiser facility for any treatment/infusions/blood draws and that’s it.

Our daughter comes to see us because she is exactly the same as us. Sees no one, uses online shopping. The only people she sees are via zoom, including the artist she works for. In person meetings are limited to us, her parents, and she will do nothing to put us at risk.

I hope you stay in good health and that you are getting some relief from the Pemphigus. Ageing is a bitch, but it is what it is. Stiff upper lip, and enjoy every minute! 🙂

Keep up the good work

Regards

Peter Brentnall

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The worst part is reading all of this, agreeing with all of this, and having to go to work where I serve coffee to people who don’t understand they have to keep their mask on the ENTIRE time until they leave the store. If you could hear the customers that come in and call my coworkers and I “brain washed” your jaw would drop. That’s Los Angeles, baby, home of Individualism.

ok, tyler

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Thank you, Bob.

But I’ve learned that those who will not wear a mask by now, just will not do it.

Sad that this guy didn’t keep well via mask-wearing.

Hopefully your post helps.

Fran D

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60 Minutes recently covered how the vaccine(s) will be distributed via the US Army, and I gotta say… it instilled a heck of a lot of confidence in me. I encourage you to give it a watch as you (and hopefully way, way many more people) stay vigilant as ever until the (literal) cavalry arrives.

Jennifer Carney

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Hi Bob. To quote you…what kind of crazy fucked up world do we live in?  How can people take medical advice from Joe Rogan. What are his qualifications?  I’ll take science over uninformed option everyday.

Craig Marlow

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Thank you for sharing this, Bob.

If only EVERYONE could get past the Joe Rogan mentality and come to realize that saving lives is just about as UN-‘pussy’-like as one can get.

So…mask up, everyone…let’s get this DONE.

(And then, maybe we can get to work on our language. As in, a new word for ‘pussy’ perhaps?)

Alice Barstow

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Correction to the letter from mrpunaway: Joe Rogan is 100% in favor of mask use and has been extremely clear he wears one whenever he goes out. The “masks are for pussies” line was a JOKE. He is a COMEDIAN and people using that line to smear Rogan are doing so in bad faith.

Jonathan Steigman

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Great advice. And don’t forget about shingles, which I thought were for roofs. It’s no joke. Any of us olds who had chickenpox has a chance of getting shingles. It’s an awful, painful rash. I know someone who nearly lost his eyesight from it. Get the shingles shot.

Jeff Hillery

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My brother, a full-time doctor who teaches Public Health at university on the side, says the vaccine will be given to health care professionals first, then to those in nursing homes, then to those with immunology issues, then to those over 65, and then to the rest of us.  Hope this eases some people’s fear of its side effects.  Can’t wait to see our world enter the next “new normal.”

Susan Rosenbluth

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Social Distancing…I keep having to tell my wife that four feet isn’t six feet.   Six feet is a lot (and may not be enough, but it’s pretty good).  This fall so many people have become lazy.  The next wave is going to be a bitch.

Michael Alex

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Spot on Bob…Build up that IMMUNITY at all costs especially if your 50+.

I’ve had all the goodies as needed,here in Canada. I’m 70 with hypertension, therefore considered high risk.

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Stay safe!

Olie Kornelsen

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I lived in Asia and Latin America in the 60s and in Africa in the 70s and the idea that we could travel without the whole range of vaccines available (and sometimes mandatory) was simply not an option. I even had to get cholera jabs (they’re painful), even though we knew they were mildly efficient.

Vaccines have saved millions of people in Africa, Asia and other parts of the world and helped get rid of endemic diseases.

So when the Covid vaccine will be available, I know what I will be doing.

And so should everyone.

Emmanuel Legrand

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COVID has become an incredible time for experimentation and thinking outside of the box as bands think about making money and building culture.

A group that I work with spent 11 days doing just that this past September and October as they embarked on their first-ever run of outdoor gigs. It was a mix of public backyard shows (where anyone could buy a ticket), private backyard shows (where hosts controlled the guest list), and even some traditional promoter gigs with promoters who host outdoor shows. The DIY-fan hosted shows made up the bulk of the dates and it’s the model they’re bringing to the entire country next summer.

The interesting thing is that for a developing band, it’s possible for them to potentially get paid more from setting up their own show and ticketing them than playing a traditional 250-cap venue. I also feel like we’re going to see more grass roots community come from these shows, even if everyone had to stay masked, seated, and six feet apart for the entire night.

The wrote a little piece about it and I thought you might enjoy it: https://tallheightsmusic.medium.com/our-band-found-a-way-to-tour-during-the-pandemic-7a90acb865aa

Have a great day!

Mark Jourdian

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Thanks for that Bob! People need to hear that stuff. It ISN’t going away in a blink!

I live in SW Florida where a HUGE % STILL believe this is a hoax & lean right into your face maskless… just to piss you off & watch you squirm.

I’m a performing musician. (& RN who quit when music got busy)

Like most of us, every festival & gig I had booked was cancelled. Some were virtual. We’re doing zoom shows.

BUT many of us are being asked to do live shows again. Most of us are declining.

We just don’t want to be responsible for spraying goobers out into audiences.

Like the donald.

It stinks, but a year or so of wearing masks & distancing is worth the burden…

Especially when I hear horror stories of the alternative from my former medical colleagues!

Stay safe. Buckle up.

No, you’re NOT hallucinating!

Thanks for spreading the word

Annie Wenz RN/Musician

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I love your writings Bob – the musical and the political. We have opposing views politically but your style is compelling as a someone that relishes a world view, I read your missives with pleasure.

I caught had COVID in mid March when returning from a ski trip in the French Alps. As a healthy 55 year old I am in the low risk category. Like a nasty bout of flu it wasn’t pleasant. But like everyone in my age category without any underlying health conditions I came through unscathed.

Wearing masks to stop the spread of infection has merit. Although I see the other side of the argument. Comparing countries or even States that have strict mask rules against those who are more relaxed, the data suggests there are no differences in the infection rate.

But the question is not whether masks stop the infection, it’s whether the cure is worse than the disease. I can understand those in the higher risk categories fearing infection and welcoming tougher restrictions such as mask mandates and a stricter lockdown. But they are far outweighed in numbers by the younger and the healthier in our societies and it is their futures we risk stealing.

Mrpunaway writes that he has had his COVID-19 for two weeks and it sucks. I get it. But faced with that or a future saddled with $ trillions in debt, waiting for a vaccine that may out may not work, I would rather take the former.

I get that you may not want want to publish my email Bob or whether you are even allowed to but one thing I do know, having been a fan of yours for so long, is you are prepared to listen to those of us with views that differ from yours.

Stay safe, stay well.
Andrew Grahame

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Thanks as always for writing, Bob. It’s good to hear your perspective.

I can’t help but to chime in here. My paranoia about the vaccines is the first hand witness accounts of nurses and parents saying their kids became autistic from a vaccine.

It isn’t fair to say that anything you read on the internet can’t be true if it doesn’t come from an accredited news source. I just had this argument with my dad the other day. We are in a new era now and the Internet can spread the truth faster than the media in many instances, and it can be a tool if you know how to read thru the bullshit. Just look at Jeffrey Epstein for example: no accredited news source would publish a story on him for years! Did that make it a conspiracy? Well, it was a true conspiracy.

I ask all my doctors about vaccines. I ask them about the autism. Of course they’re going to say there’s no scientific evidence proving that. Their business is medicine! They make money from prescribing drugs. You can’t tell me that you don’t know how messed up the medical industry is in this country. That as much as we are lucky to be in this country the insurance system is messed up, drives up prices and makes the cost of care astronomical. My gynecologist swears birth control is good for you, but it also keeps you coming back once a year for a new prescription, if not for any other reason. Just like a drug dealer! But most women I know under 30 who are educated or ‘woke’ and live in coastal cities like NYC or LA have told me their lives were significantly improved by getting off of birth control. It’s almost impossible to find legit scientific articles about this because the medical industry and the pharmaceutical companies don’t want you to.

I’m all for looking at the scientific evidence. Like climate change. We have to be realistic. However you also have to look at the motives of the people writing the prescriptions and of the industry as a whole.

As you mentioned about our food being complete shit, in so many words, everything really is a ‘conspiracy’. If you believe the republicans are trying to keep people uneducated and gullible in order to be more easily taken advantage of – as Trumps team utilized in the last election with Cambridge Analytica – then it’s not that hard to believe that doctors and the government don’t always have our best interest at heart either. The rise in autism is also linked to our food being complete shit in this country. As you mentioned most people either can’t afford to eat ‘organic’, if there even really is such a thing, or they aren’t ever taught how important it is. Do doctors make an effort to educate us on this? Not really because then we would need them a lot less.

The saddest part about the election is that no one talked about fixing the food in this country. That’s the real root of so many problems. I hate to say it but it almost seems like many of the issues the media focuses on are just a distraction to keep us focused on other things, ensuring these huge corporate conglomerates can keep profiting off of our mental and physical downfall.

I don’t disagree with your point about the herd mentality. I myself am guilty of the same thing. I don’t want to be the first one to get the vaccine, or even get it at all to be honest. But that’s because of my basic human instinct of self preservation. Survival of the fittest, or I suppose in todays world the most ‘educated’. If I’m skeptical something may have long term negative side effects, if I have a deep rooted distrust of the system, why in my right mind would I line up for the vaccine? I’d almost rather stay in my house for the rest of my life than do something that doesn’t sit right in my gut. Im not anti vax by any means, but I also have to weigh the pros and cons. I’m terrified of a government mandated vaccine. The whole thing just seems too suspicious.

The sentiment of distrust of doctors and the government is shared by more and more people, especially under the age of 30. There IS usually an agenda if there is something to be gained. Look at all the ‘conspiracies’ that have been brought to light simply by people having social media and cell phones on their person all the time. What if the medical industry ‘conspiracy’ is the next police brutality? You can deny it because you don’t want to believe it until the evidence is undeniable. Over time more of this will come to light, unfortunately for all of us.

Leah Haxhi

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Thank you for writing this.
The more influential people pass on this message, the higher the chances someone will listen.
Have been following you for years, I lead the data operations in a Swiss NGO focused on diagnostics for infectious diseases, and it just breaks my heart to see on one side thousands of professionals dedicating their life trying to make things better for the majority who just ignores the basic recommendations thinking they are above everything else and thus immune to all of this.
What kind of a world is this where personal freedom must prevail at all costs?
I might not always agree with your musical taste but please do this again.
Stefano Ongarello

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I had Covid 19 in July.  In the morning I had no temperature, felt fine, and did some work at home (I’m an accountant).  In the afternoon I felt tired and decided to lie down.  I was in bed for the next 11 days, sleeping 20 hours a day.  I had intermittent fever and chills (temperature never over 101), a mild dry cough, a bit of trouble when I tried to take a deep breath.  On the third day I could barely smell anything and on the fourth day my sense of smell was gone completely.  At which point I started to grieve as if I had lost a dear friend.  Because – and this was the worst part – from the evening of the first day I was horribly, clinically depressed.  Everything seemed bleak, hopeless, doomed … it was dreadful.  That is not my nature and I have never felt that kind of depression except for once, about 35 years ago, when I had a case of bacterial pneumonia that got really bad because the doctor I saw thought it was viral and didn’t give me antibiotics till I was almost gone.

I couldn’t eat anything, therefore lost a lot of weight and became very weak.

Then, on the 17th day after I came down with it, I got up to get a glass of water and – the depression was gone, I looked around the kitchen and thought, Man, I need to clean this place up!  Just like that.

A couple of days after that I developed very bad edema in both legs/ankles.  I went to urgent care, they sent me flying off to the emergency room because they thought it was a symptom of heart attack, and after the requisite six hours and test after test after test they sent me home with the info that I was in excellent health and they had no idea what was causing the edema.  (I got some detox tea at the health food store and it was gone 48 hours later).

Since then I have had some recurring issues – fatigue, depression (but more like malaise, not that awful feeling of thinking about death and dying all the time), and a couple of times I’ve keeled over for no apparent reason, which I attribute to possible sudden drops in my blood pressure.  I did get a month ago – the test confirmed that I had had COVID and I do have antibodies.

My sister (who lives in Spain) also had it, back in late February or early March, same symptoms but milder.

And, my partner had it around the same time I did, again, same symptoms but quite a bit milder & shorter duration.

I hope this gives an idea of what some of the non-severe (i.e., not requiring hospitalization) effects of the virus are.  The scariest part of being sick was not knowing what to expect, how long it would go on, if it would keep getting worse or get better, or whether or not my sense of smell would come back (it did, after about a week, but food still doesn’t taste the same as it used to).

Take care Bob and don’t get the virus – we need you!

Stephanie Zill

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You’re so right, Bob.

And the murderer-in-chief owns this. Along with those who let it supported him in letting it rage out of control – McConnell and the brood.

We live in a country where millions of people have malfunctioning decision criteria – people who say they won’t believe Covid is real because they can’t see it -unless someone they know personally dies of it and even then they aren’t sure BUT – will believe in a supernatural force in the sky they say controls their every waking moment, even though they can’t see it and it doesn’t answer their prayers.

No wonder we’re having a tough time.

I’m with you, mask, hand wash, stay away from me, and I wish we had your weather so we could eat outside this winter.

John Parikhal

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I feel very bad for Matthew. He obviously did the best he could but it just shows you the power that somebody like Trump and the right has the power to change the narration. Changing a narration  changes peoples lives and not for the better either. Yet there are still people out there even though there’s a raging pandemic in the Midwest And other parts of the country who still believe masks are bad and the virus really isn’t anything. What the fuck happened to this country? You can have medical experts that truly are geniuses and Nobel prize winners and these freaking idiots don’t believe the science. It is truly astounding and it is something that I don’t know if anybody has the answer for except to say that if they all get sick so be it because they were warned. We need to start the education system way earlier and drop it into young peoples heads about science and the legitimacy of it based on the facts. Because as Kellyanne Conway says they deal with alternative facts,

I send my very best to Matthew and hope he gets through this and it just heightens my awareness of what I have to do to keep me And the circle of people around me safe.

Peace, Jason Miles

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Thanks for sharing your story, Matthew. Some advice from someone who’s been in the business a long time: Get rid of the guy. He’s probably not very good anyway, and even without him putting your life at risk, it sounds like you’d end up finding other reasons to want to smash his fucking skull in.

Fingers crossed that he ends up being a long hauler and suffers for the rest of his life for his selfish fucking stupidity. Shit, maybe he’ll die. LOL. Anyway, fuck that guy!

Wade Mosher

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thanks for sharing this Bob

i’d love for you to share as many of these stores as possible because i know you have a ton of Trump voters who read your posts.

its just so simple and this story is very clear…

MASKS WORK

Jean Sievers