It reflected the music of the players as opposed to the owners.

If you search online you will find three responses to Sunday’s Super Bowl Dre extravaganza:

1. Best Super Bowl halftime show ever!

2. Okay, good to see hip-hop, it’s about time, but do all the acts have to be twenty or thirty years past their prime?

3. Horrid. I turned it off.

I found the Super Bowl surprisingly flat.

In truth, football is fading, to be replaced by esports. The only people who don’t know this is are those involved in it. And that number continues to decrease. Too many parents don’t want their kids’ lives shortened.

And football has very little action. Video games are all action.

Football requires physicality, as result of genes and training. ANYBODY can participate in esports.

It’s fascinating to watch the boomer generation run its institutions off the rails. The Oscars announced a fan award will be decided on TWITTER! That’s so 2012. When people watched the show and live-tweeted. The only people who still do that are those who’ve got an interest in the movie business, the scribes, everybody else doesn’t care. Twitter is for news diehards and oldsters. Youngsters are on TikTok.

And what is the essence of TikTok? PARTICIPATION!

Everybody wants to play. Which is the democratic leveling that contributes to the growth of the aforementioned esports. If you want to draw attention to your enterprise, you’ve got to let the public participate.

I laud the ability of an outsider to present an Oscar, but if the Academy really desired excitement, they’d offer a role in a movie! That’s right, the person with the best TikTok clip referencing an Oscar nominee gets a role in a film next year. In a Spielberg movie. Or Michael Bay. Or Spider-man. A SPEAKING ROLE! Yup, not just an extra. Give them a line. Or two. That anybody can do. Believe me, the TikTok generation will tune in to find out who won.

So watching football is a passive experience, when as stated above, everybody wants to participate. The game hasn’t changed in decades, is beholden to advertisers and there’s very little actual playing involved. The Super Bowl tradition is loved by oldsters. Youngsters? Eh…

So in this world you either lead or you follow. If you’re not innovating, you’re dying. If you’ve seen one Super Bowl, you’ve seen them all.

Like the commercials.

For decades, the actual Super Bowl game was not competitive. But you tuned in just to see the commercials. A paradigm that was established with Steve Jobs’s 1984 commercial for the Macintosh. ONE commercial changed the whole paradigm. Since then? We’ve seen safe.

I mean my favorite commercial of the game was the “Sopranos” Chevy one. But it would have been better if there were more narrative. It was cognitive dissonance to hear Alabama 3’s “Woke Up This Morning,” as if someone had changed the channel. But why couldn’t there be an arc? Steve Jobs bought two minutes for Apple in 1984, couldn’t Chevy buy more time?

Which brings us back to the halftime show.

In truth, it’s a visual performance. The audio is secondary. Most people listen on lousy TV systems anyway.

And it started with the set. All white. When you lose color, you add color. And the labels… Tam’s Burgers? If you lived in L.A. you smiled.

And Dre was happy and Snoop showed why he was a superstar and the whole show proved why rock is dead. Point out the innovation in rock in the last two decades…smiling everyman meat and potatoes Dave Grohl?

Yes, the stars brought all their drama. Not only Mary J. Blige, but the rest of the performers.

Dr. Dre… The most unknown superstar there is. Who is Dre exactly? Nobody knows! Should we be afraid of him or in reality is he nice… He’s inaccessible. But here he was, smiling.

And then Snoop delivered on all fronts. Not only his unique vocal delivery, but the way his body moved akin to a Slinky, as if he had no bones inside.

Fitty was a surprise.

Kendrick brought the whole thing up to date, he deserved his own headlining spot.

And then Marshall evidenced that intensity that had everybody scared twenty years ago.

Snoop… What really happened in that park? All we know is Snoop was acquitted. And we also know that Snoop is a football fanatic. And that he’s good friends with Martha Stewart. Talk about an American story, if Snoop Dogg ran for president he’d win. Hands-down.

Fitty. He has his own checkered past.

As for Marshall… Let’s see, he remarried Kim and they got divorced once again. Hailie went to college. He starred in his own movie. He gained an insane amount of weight then lost it. He got hooked on heroin, but here he is as if none of that mattered, delivering his lines like they still matter, like he still matters, unlike all the geriatric rock stars still plying the boards.

As for Mary J…

She didn’t look like the models, the skinny social x-rays. She looked more human, like someone in your neighborhood. And unlike the models, she had rhythm and evidenced it.

The whole show was about rhythm. Which has supplanted melody in today’s music. Rhythm is more basic, the underpinning, when all the rest is b.s. you strip it down to its basics.

Kinda like punk. The Ramones opened the floodgates, enough with prog rock, it was about energy and attitude and anybody could play, and did, just like they ultimately rapped.

Hip-hop won. By being more authentic. More grounded. More experimental. More real.

Is it a bit long in the tooth now? Sometimes a caricature of itself?

Yes. But nothing has come along to replace it. That’s the irony of the internet age, there’s so much more, across the board, but it takes so long for something new to become dominant. Overnight was over ten years ago. And if it happens real fast, it fades. Like Clubhouse. Heard anybody talk about that recently?

And if you rest on your laurels, you’re dead. You can try and buy the competition, play hardball, but you can’t keep down innovation, you can’t dictate to the public, which is how TikTok usurped the social media throne from Facebook.

As far as Facebook competing with Reels, etc. It’s about the PLATFORM more than the content. When you have the dominant platform it is not superseded by a copycat because all the people are already there, in a community, and sans community you’ve got nothing.

So in truth they should have given Dre control years ago.

And isn’t it funny how he had to pay for it. Seven million supposedly. Proving, once again, that cash is king, and without it opportunity and upward mobility are steep slopes most people cannot climb.

But if corporations can buy advertising, Dr. Dre is entitled to buy time too.

And for the first time ever, the halftime show has gone viral. It’s memorable. It’s being watched and shared in the tens of millions, ultimately the hundreds of millions. Because like Kimmel says, it’s not about the show, it’s about the internet, the longevity. It blows up on the internet. Years from now, no one will remember who even played in last Sunday’s Super Bowl, never mind won. But they’ll remember the halftime show!

But the impact will never be the same as something from the pre-internet era. Because we no longer watch the same shows, consume the same art, the center stopped holding in America eons ago. As a matter of fact, there were multiple news stories over the weekend that white people were abandoning the NFL because they thought the owners were kowtowing to the Black players, who they thought already have too much power. Call it the Kaepernick effect. You’ve got to keep the “boys” down. Otherwise who knows what will happen!

Actually, nobody knows, now more than ever. Will Putin invade Ukraine? Will Trump win the nomination in 2024?

But one thing was for sure, twenty-odd years ago, if you wanted to know what was going on you listened to hip-hop, the sound of the streets, the sound of reality.

Sunday was a well-deserved victory lap.

So where do we go from here?

I don’t know, but one thing is for sure, it’s forward, not back. If you’re protecting your interests, you’ve already lost. You’ve got to experiment, put it all on the line, lay down your truth. Which is anathema these days. Wasn’t that the argument re Rogan? The truth? Well, it turns out the truth is fungible, irrelevant of its veracity. And without truth, you no longer have a society.

Music used to be the glue that held society together. This was what was wrought in the sixties and seventies, music is an elemental building block of the boomers.

But people today believe it’s just music, that music always rules. That’s patently wrong. Music rules when it pushes the envelope and is instructional, when it’s aspirational as opposed to lowest common denominator pandering.

If you want to win today you’ve got to tap into the mind-set of the people. Big time sports can never do this. Never ever. But art can. Music, movies, TV. That is art’s power. That is why artists are adored more than billionaires. And have more power if they choose to exercise it. But in an era where the acts want to be billionaires, have compromised and sacrificed their art in the pursuit of money, you end up with a hollowed-out sphere.

But the power is still there. Nascent, ready to be reawakened.

But growth is slower than ever, and today’s younger generation is impatient, it wants it all and it wants it now, and now, more than ever, that’s impossible.

It starts with you. Then you gain the hearts and minds of the public. You allow people to innovate and own your production. If they’re messing with your music that’s a TRIBUTE not a heinous copyright infringement. Hell, all those wankers who were against Napster and YouTube have finally woken up to the power of TikTok, they’re DYING to have a viral moment like Fleetwood Mac, a regular citizen skateboarding with cranberry juice to music that is playing to one as opposed to everyone.

So the halftime show was a delineation of what was. It’s also a harbinger, a blueprint of what can be. It’s all there, you’ve just go to look below the surface.

You need to look deep inside, reflect your inner feelings without compromise, and then they might resonate.

The game didn’t.

But the halftime show did.

HOORAY!

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You get older and you start to disconnect.

Every morning I wake up and immediately jump on my phone. I don’t leave it by the bed, at some point I turn off the ringer and plug it in in the other room, otherwise I’d never get to sleep. But when I wake up, I grab it first thing and then sit down on the throne and read the news.

Yes, the porcelain goddess. You might find that gross, but in truth I’ve always loved the bathroom. It’s private. If the door is closed, no one can come in, especially if it’s locked. Grow up in a split-level with four other people and you treasure your privacy.

And like in that old Joni Mitchell song, I’m looking at the news and it’s all bad. Putin wants to invade Ukraine because Ukraine is going to start fighting first. And he’s convinced his constituents of that fallacy. They’re gung-ho. As for America, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are fanning the flames of trucker protests in the U.S. Meanwhile, Trump takes his presidential documents to Mar-a-Lago and it seems the brouhaha of Hillary’s e-mails is forgotten. As for Ukraine, Michael Moore is telling us to stay out, as is Fox News, but those in D.C. on both sides of the fence are saying we have to defend Ukraine against the Russians.

Now if you’ve been to the area, it’s astounding how close these countries are. Like states in America. As for burying one’s head in the sand in the name of nationalism, today’s paper said that BMW was buying back 50% of its Chinese operation to ultimately own 75%. The old laws limited ownership, now Xi has loosened it up. And BMW has to operate in China, because it’s the world’s biggest market!

Having grown up in the last century it’s hard to fathom the changes. Forget the loss of kumbaya, forget the greed, forget the billionaires, hands-down the United States was the most powerful and profitable nation in the world. One thing we know for sure, if the sun hasn’t set on this paradigm yet, it soon will.

As for democracy…

So on one hand I’m drawn in. On another, I detach, because in truth I won’t live that long. The long term effects of global warming…it’s bad now, but it’s going to be really bad after I pass away.

So I’m torn between two worlds.

But it’s even worse. Everybody my age is retiring. That’s right, they saved for decades, invested that money they made oftentimes doing work they didn’t want to do and now they want to relax. Which is hard for me to fathom, I still believe I have some runway. But I’m one of the few who doesn’t want to call it quits.

Furthermore, the game has changed. There used to be clearly defined winners and losers. Now I hope your victory satisfies you, because no one else cares. So you question what your direction is, and why you do it.

And back to Putin… He’s stealing from his own country exactly why. To become even richer? I mean how much is enough? He’s my age, I think with a hundred million dollars I could do just fine, never mind a billion.

And this weekend is the Super Bowl. Which is being played in L.A.

I think the game should be banned. One day we’ll wake up and do so. A humane, caring society wouldn’t let men damage themselves this way, getting CTE, shortening their lives. But there’s too much money involved. And it’s one of the few avenues of success available to Black people. So as long as the pay remains high, you will find people to participate.

And I remember the first Super Bowl. That’s how old I am. Back when it had no gravitas, when the AFL was seen as kind of a joke, and the first two Super Bowls proved it, and then came Namath.

Now in the name of money they play football in the winter. But ironically, in L.A. this weekend, where the game is being held, it’s like summer, it’s in the eighties.

And in truth, I’ve spent most of the past two years housebound. And I’ve been in a cocoon. I talk on the phone even less than I did before, which was miniscule to begin with. I’m waiting for the time when I can turn into a butterfly. Which isn’t quite yet. Then again, like I read in that tweet, they’ve done the research at YouTube University and have decided that Covid is gone and the country needs to open.

So we got on Sunset…to the beach, just like in that Steely Dan song. And the traffic was worse than it is even on a summer day. Because it’s Saturday, because it’s Super Bowl weekend and tourists are here, everybody wants to drive up PCH, have that California experience, which in truth, you cannot get anywhere else.

And after parking I surveyed the ocean, which is glassy, and a big wave came in.

And I smiled.

Ella was making a sand castle. She’s three. When I was that age I went to the beach all the time, every day during the summer, with my mother. And I built sandcastles too, but back then the tools were made out of metal, not plastic, and I cut my hand on a rusty bucket and got my first stitches, four, in my hand, at age four.

And the waves keep coming in, big wheel turning, the hand of God.

And it really isn’t any different than it’s always been. Like George Carlin said, save yourself, the planet will be here forever.

But George is dead. So many are dead. The biggies and those not so big. Like Ian McDonald of King Crimson, they wanted me to write about him. And I certainly know who he is, and how he ventured to Foreigner, and he was there for the first three albums, before Mutt Lange came aboard and jetted an already huge band into the stratosphere. And if McDonald had died back then…it would have been big news.

But now rockers are dying left and right. It’s their time. Their bad behavior and lack of medical attention is catching up with them. We thought they and their music were forever, it’s weird to grow old and find out that is not true.

So there are so many things I don’t own. But none of them would give me that feeling of staring out at the water, the sun on my face, just one human being on the face of the earth. That’s the only context that really matters, the rest is a competition you’re involved in until you reach an age where you can see it is a joke, no one is remembered, and you can’t take your money with you.

So it’s really about the next generation. You gain joy from seeing them experience for the very first time that which you know by heart.

And this year, reluctant to go to a party, I now realize I’m not that excited about watching the Super Bowl, that I could miss it completely and lose nothing. Even the commercials… They don’t mean what they used to.

Nothing means what it used to. But you’ve got to get old enough to realize this.

Then again, the younger generations are all about experiences. They need to document them, but once again, you get old enough and you know you’ll probably never look at those pictures again and after you die they’ll get thrown out or deleted.

And this may sound like a downer, but it’s not, not at all. I’ve been LIBERATED! It doesn’t pay to fight with the ignorant. The truth always outs. And sure, you need money to live, but you don’t really need that much, otherwise you’re just showing off, and like David Geffen posting a pic of himself on his yacht during Covid, you become a target of ridicule.

You’ve got to be happy on the inside.

And that’s quite a challenge. Because nobody’s happy all the time, nobody. You’ve got to endure the lows to appreciate the highs.

Like being inside forever and then coming to the beach.

Where the freedom we embraced in the sixties was launched. By the Beach Boys, the rest of California. Now, everyone wants to make fun of California, point to its flaws, but if they were here today they’d change their opinion.

Yes, at the end of the country, three thousand miles and three time zones from the east coast. Or, as Larry Ellison told Dr. Agus… I’ll give you the money to build a research facility, but not in New York. In New York you fail once and you’re done. In California you fail and you pick yourself up and do it again, and again. And why would you want to be in New York anyway, where you talk to bankers, isn’t it better to be on the west coast with the creative people, the thinkers?

But I’m not trying to convince you. I hope you’re happy where you are.

If I had my suit with me I’d go in the water. I’ve already gotten my feet wet. Sure, the water is cold, but it’s so hot out, it’s refreshing. It would be a shock to the system.

And that’s the kind of shock I’m looking for.

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Hi Bob-

I really appreciate you saying nice things about my contribution to Rolling Stone. I was happy with the piece, and I understand that they have limitations to how long it could be, but I wrote a more detailed breakdown of the issue. I wasn’t expecting RS to just print what I wrote, but putting things down in writing helps me think more cogently.  I thought you might enjoy it, so I’ll copy what I wrote in preparation below.

Best-

David Macias

Many artists are hurting these days. It’s become more difficult to earn a living as an artist. Anyone trying has my deep respect. For anyone who knows me and knows my company, Thirty Tigers, you know that our heart is squarely with the artist. We invest in artists; we work hard for artists. We try to help them navigate the industry so that they can earn the most money possible without sacrificing the quality of the effort in promoting their art, all while they maintain 100% ownership and control over their masters.

So, it pains me when I see artists and those who love them misdiagnose the source of their difficulty. Spotify is the current scapegoat for the ills of the working-class artist, despite them paying 63% of gross revenues back out to rights holders. This is in relative parity to other DSPs and slightly higher than brick and mortar retail (60%), which is understandable given that they must pay for physical space to conduct business.

A note about rates: Spotify is pilloried for the fact that they pay a lower net rate than Apple or Tidal. The reason for this lower rate is that Spotify offers something that the others don’t – an ad-supported tier that pays at a lower rate because advertising does not bring in the amount of money subscriptions do. You can choose to feel aggrieved about the lower aggregate rate (which many do), or you can choose to be happy that people that can’t afford to pay $10 a month are given a way to participate in a way that allows for some royalties to be earned (which is how I feel). People can disagree in good faith about which approach is preferable, but it’s simply not the case that Spotify is just paying less to pad their bottom line. They bring in less revenue per listener but still pay out a commensurate percentage to the other DSPs.

Between DSPs like Spotify and companies like TuneCore, music is more democratized more than ever, to the point where the DSPs upload 60,000 new songs every day. Let me repeat that. 60,000. SONGS. PER. DAY. That’s the equivalent of over 2,100,000 albums of material a year. The US global market share is 53%, so let’s peg the number of albums (including track equivalents) released in the US at 1,100,000. By comparison, in 2004, the US music industry released around 50,000 albums.

I pick that year for a reason. It was the first year that the RIAA recorded any digital revenue, and it was also a year that nearly matches the dollar amounts made by the industry in 2020.

Let’s consider what life was like for artists in 2004….

If you aspired for national or international success, you were forced to sign with a label to get the resources and advocacy that you needed to reach an audience. Those deals were most often at terms that were not favorable to the artist. Labels were absolute gatekeepers, and they wielded that advantage like a cudgel.

Today, you don’t need anyone’s permission.

If you look at the playlists on the DSPs, you will find an abundance of independent artists, unaffiliated with anyone getting their shot. Spotify has taken great steps to democratize access to the playlists, by allowing anyone to pitch their music to the people who make the decisions on what goes on their playlists.

As an example, Spotify’s New Boots playlist currently features 20 artists on it whose work is copyrighted directly to the artist with no label affiliation listed. That playlist has over 800,000 followers.

I think of Russell Dickerson, who delivered proof of concept by having his music streamed over 25 million times before he was picked up by a label (one that I am affiliated with), who has helped him chart four consecutive singles at #1. Spotify changed his life. If this was 2004, he would have likely never gotten that opportunity.

However, democratization has come at a cost. Let’s consider the math of 2004 vs. 2020. Both years saw $12.2 billion earned by the industry. If you divide that amount by 50,000 albums released, the average album in 2004 earned $244,000 in revenues. If you divide that numbers by 1,100,000 albums, the average album earned $11,090. If you apply the 80/20 rule to the 2020 numbers (a business maxim that hypothesizes that 80% of sales comes from the top 20% of money earners), you can estimate that the 880,000 least commercially successful albums earned $2.44 billion in revenue, or $2770 per album.

Democratization has been a huge boon to independent artists in that it has given more artists a chance, but not been enough to earn them a living wage. The pie is being sliced so thin, that most artists are left hungry.

A painful question must be asked at this point: Is it an artist’s right to earn a living from their art in a capitalist market? In a country where the business-failure rate is 65% over ten years, should artists be immune from their businesses failing? As much as my heart goes out to anyone who is not able to make their dream come true, I would say that that answer is no.

Financially, the low point of the music business was in 2014. The RIAA figures for the retail value of all music sold then was $6.7 billion. As streaming has become the predominant way people consume music, that number has skyrocketed to that $12.2 billion figure in the US. That is a 75% increase in revenues in six years. Anyone who argues that streaming has been harmful to the ecosystem has billions of dollars to explain away when making their case.

I attended a music business conference presentation in the early 2000s, where the RIAA presented a study where they asked people who self-identified as avid music consumers how much money they spent a year on music. The average amount was about $60 a year. Remember, we’re making as much money now as then, so we really are talking apples-to-apples. If you want to subscribe to a streaming service, you are contributing $120 a year to the till. The contribution of the average consumer has roughly doubled, so is it any surprise that industry revenues have mirrored this doubling since the advent of streaming?

So how then can artists make enough money to survive? There are options for a patronage model like Patreon that can operate outside the revenue models of pre-recorded music. Though I am suspicious of the lasting value of NFTs, some artists are earning money creating singular goods that can be made available to fans. Though on the horizon, potential applications of direct funding through web3 applications may give artists an opportunity to monetize their creations more directly.

What I do not want to see happen is that artists misattribute the source of their problem and undermine the DSPs that have played a huge role in the democratization of independent music.

Is Spotify perfect? Far from it. I won’t touch the Joe Rogan issue. That’s a matter of conscience for artists and their advocates. Do I wish that Spotify were not joining other DSPs in appealing the Copyright Royalty Board’s ruling that pays the publishers and songwriters 15% of revenues? Absolutely. When artists I work with have walked into their NYC offices, as often as not, I hear about the opulence of their offices and the perks that are made available to their employees on full display. On a gut level, the artists correlate these with their lower royalty rate (explained above) as compared to other DSPs. Spotify, I tell you these things as your friend. Sometimes you don’t do yourselves any favors.

Vilification is easy. I’ve heard that it’s not the people, it’s the system that is broken. To that, I counter that any system that has increased parity and overall revenues is not a broken system. There is just way, way, WAY more music available, and though the pie is growing, it’s unable to feed everyone. Artists need to understand the reality of the situation and be clear eyed about what battles they need to be fighting. My contention is that dismantling the existing system without a replacement will harm independent artists.

My heart is with all of you, and I wish you all the best.

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Amen to you and to David for this one.  This debate has really gotten under my skin.  I am an agent and across about 20 acts, and while I don’t participate in any of the recorded revenues, they have become life changing for the artists over the past five years and especially through the pandemic.  This is mostly due to Spotify.  The other key is that I mostly work with independent artists – meaning they own all or parts of their catalogues.  Napkin math, but out of 20 clients, 4 or 5 of them have major label deals or deal with big indies where they do not own/control masters.  The rest have distro only deals (with companies like Thirty Tigers, whom I love, or AWAL), or deals with fair and artist friendly indies (like Dualtone, whom I love) where they might have a mid-term (7 year) license but still retaining masters ownership.  Most of my artists are also taking small or no advances, so that they are seeing cash flow in many cases from dollar one.

My acts that own pieces or all of their catalogue, and have between 1.5mm-4mm monthly Spotify listeners, are making anywhere from $20k to $100k PER MONTH from Spotify revenues.  4mm monthly listeners is significant and means that the artist has a real following, but this is nowhere near the top of the heap and what you might consider “mainstream” names like Drake who has 53mm monthlys.  My smaller acts who have between 200k-500k monthly listeners, are still making $1k-$5k per month from Spotify.  When they own their catalogue – again, a key differentiator in who gets paid.  These are artists you have most likely not heard of, but who ARE making a livable wage between these recorded revenues, shows, merch, etc.

So for everyone weighing in and unsubscribing from Spotify to say “fuck the man,” all you’re doing is fucking the little guy.  Spotify in my mind is an EXTREMELY artist friendly company.  As the pie gets smaller, these revenues go down for all artists, and the ones who are hurt most are the small ones at the bottom of the totem pole.  Neil made his point and I commend him for it, and it made a (small) difference, but Spotify is not the problem, quite the opposite.  We are living in a golden era of recorded revenues!

Keith Levy

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Brilliant. I’ve been saying similar things for a long time but less eloquently.

 

The popular narrative is unfair to the streamers and is misdirected anger. The streamers are paying more than 50% of their gross revenue to rights owners, and in the US radio is paying what – under 3%? Concerts are paying what – fractions of what the rest of the world pays for performing rights at a concert. The most unfair royalty issue in streaming is the disparity between master and publishing. No excuse. Unsustainable. Let’s see a popular uprising over those issues.

 

A million streams sounds like a lot so people are flummoxed that the dollars aren’t commensurate with that mental image. However, the number of radio spins necessary to equal a million impressions is, for argument’s sake, say 10 (100,000 listeners X 10 spins). OK let’s say it’s 20. Or 100. If you only had 100 spins on radio, you wouldn’t say you were successful.

Best,

 

Michael McCarty

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Agree with David. Side note, he has been on the front end of supporting streaming for at least a decade long before any of us could read the tea leaves.

We have been having a similar conversation in our office this week.

Should Spotify pay songwriters and artists more $? Yes. Should they stop spread of misinformation if they can? Yes. Is any tech company morally pure? No.

 

Amazon has had their own scandals and worker’s conditions questioned consistently…Apple had the same in China…and we all remember Batterygate…on the vaccine issue the biggest spreader of all misinformation is Facebook but there isn’t a mass musician’s exodus to abandon the platform (along w Instagram which it owns). All commercial entities have things to own and we should all hold them accountable but we are ignoring the good that Spotify does for artists.

 

The first question from all of our management partners after “What playlists did we get?” is “Can you help setup our tour presale w Spotify?”. Spotify has helped sell hundreds of thousands of tickets (probably more I don’t have an official stat) and put money in the hands of artists and creators through their pre-sale activations. The streaming rates for songwriters and artists need to come up but it’s more nuanced than that when evaluating the whole ball of wax.

 

We have benefited greatly from the Spotify Fans First merch activations around exclusive products generating six figures of revenue for our artists.

 

Spotify has developed tech to directly benefit artists…putting up the donation capability during COVID and enabling selling merch directly from Artist pages.

 

When comparing the big 4 (Apple, Spotify, Amazon, Youtube) no other tech company gives as much access to the fan data and ability to reach directly to fans through Spotify for Artists and through ad programs like Marquee. The comparison and chatter with Bandcamp/Patreon is a different conversation I believe as those platforms are more D2C built.

Out of home support, billboards in Times Square, Spotify Sessions developing content for Artists that they own…the list goes on.

Are there things wrong with Spotify…absolutely, as has been well documented (they just paid 300M+ to be a sponsor of premier league soccer team instead of increasing pay for artists and songwriters!). But we need to focus on the duality a bit here.

We work with several bands that literally were able to quit their day jobs to do music full time because of this service. That fact doesn’t let them off the hook for Rogan and everything else but the Spotify bashing doesn’t address how their innovation has shepherded us into a new music business economy that for most labels and artists on those labels is working.

They are our #1 revenue driver, it’s not even close.

Because of our partnership deals with our acts those dollars flow through and we win together. It’s not us vs. them and that shouldn’t be the tone of the Spotify conversation either.

Paul Roper

Dualtone

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I love how most discussions about Spotify never even bring up the biggest problem. David is correct in his assessment that the label earns approx $4000 – $5000 per million streams. In the Thirty Tigers model the artist gets the lions share of that. Very equitable.

The songwriter portion of the 4 to 5 k is ridiculous. It’s approx $200. Let us remember that many of the greatest songs ever written were not written by the artist. The professional songwriter has a storied history via Tin Pan Alley, Motown and Music Row as a major contributor to the music we know and love. Are we willing to let thousands of amazing songwriters wither up and die and be left with songs that are less than the best they can be?

Here’s a hypothetical for you that might make this easier to understand. “Man in the Mirror” by Michael Jackson was written by Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett. The album it was on sold a ton of records for which the writers received mechanical royalties for at a rate of approx 9 cents per copy. Let’s use 10 million as our number. Maybe they both had co-pub deals so they probably made 3 to 4 cents per album sold. That’s $300, 000 TO $400, 000 EACH. Those royalties ( mechanical ) have in fact gone the way of the horse and buggy. No one buys anything any more. I’m sure they did fine on terrestrial radio performance royalties for the single.

Fast forward to the streaming era…No album sales of note. Reduced radio play. Now let’s do the Spotify numbers. Total guess but I’m thinking in this era a record like that would get somewhere around 200 million streams. Michael Jackson had a more conventional deal than the Thirty Tigers model. His label would get $5000 per million streams. He would get via his artist deal some of that money. Let’s do the math. $5000 x 200 million ( the lower figure ) = 1 trillion dollars. The writers would split somewhere between $40, 000 and $50, 000. So… label gets one trillion, artist maybe 1 million, writers $40,000 to $50,000. Do you think that’s fair? Do you realize how much other revenue a great song generates for the label and the artist. The labels colluded with Spotify to set the system up so they would both make a ton of money during the streaming era. I am so glad I came up in an era where I was able to write songs for artists other than myself and be rewarded monetarily when something good happened with them.

When I lecture these days at Berklee school of music or Belmont in Nashville I tell young writers who are looking to go into songwriting as a profession, if you’re not the artist, you are looking at a huge uphill climb when it comes to paying your bills. What is the result of this syndrome? The world loses out on great music that won’t ever be written if we don’t change the model. There are artists that are quite capable of writing great songs for themselves. There are just as many that have no talent in that area and should leave that piece of the puzzle to those of us who can do it well.

In closing, here’s a few songs that would have never been written if there were no outside songwriters. “ You’ve Got A Friend “ I Can’t Make You Love Me” “My Girl”  “Up On The Roof” The entire Great American Songbook, George Gershwin, Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, Jerome Kern, Harold Arlen, Johnny Mercer, and Richard Rodgers, among others. Thanks for taking the time to read this and maybe look at it from another point of view.

Respectfully,

Steve Seskin

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Thanks for publishing this Bob.  David’s one of my dearest friends, and one of not only the best business minds in the biz, but human beings.  He built a revolutionary model and an alternative offering to individuals that wanted to pursue being an artist back when all that really existed before was the major label system.

I’ve seen him build Thirty Tigers from one man in a guest bedroom to the powerhouse that it is, and along the way his heart has been one of service and empowering artists.  Through the success, both in the growth of Thirty Tigers as well as many of the acts that they have broken, many of whom went to him after everyone else said “no” in town, he has not changed one bit.  His mission is and has always been on the art, but he has always had a balanced approach to how he looks at the macro economics of it all.

His message is true.  It should and needs to be heard.  It also comes from a good place.  I’m sure the complainers will shit on it, undeservedly so.  We should celebrate more having an opportunity, that’s all we’re given or should want is a shot, not everyone wins the game unfortunately but playing it sure can be a fulfilling ride.

Gino Genaro

CDA Entertainment

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A few back I worked David on the board of the Americana Music Association and found him to be the most insightful guy on the board. I also found him to have integrity and honesty. Artists they took on tended to never question their decision.

Bob Benckert

The Alternate Root

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I’ve had a few minor business dealings with David Macias over the years. Each time he was gracious, honest, and forthright. This was an awesome piece. It’s impossible to get it right every time, but Thirty Tigers has a helluva batting average. Kudos to Macias and the company he keeps.

Matthew Sterling

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What a great guy!

I first encountered Mr Macias maybe 20 years ago when he was managing Rich Robinson’s project called Hookah Brown.  Total straight shooter and hustled his butt off!

I was a young promoter / club booker, huge Crowes fan, and was completely star struck by Rich, too afraid to ask for a t-shirt and David must have read my mind because out of the blue he asked me my size and presented me with a shirt.  Just a little thing like that makes memories.

While I haven’t made much contact since, it’s been very cool to watch him grow from afar and he’s got one helluvah respectable artist roster!

Good on him for laying it out there.  You’re correct, almost no one will see it, including me, so glad you shot it out to us!

Rock on Bob!

Dan Millen

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I appreciate the clarification on artist pay. I never researched it but had caught an earful from a frustrated musician. I am teaching college students these days and they all live in different realities. it’s wild. i asked who would be watching the super bowl this weekend, only 5 or 6 out of almost 30 kids. yes, it’s an uninspiring matchup (bengals rams ho hum) but still. they share the same tech platforms but not the same content, beliefs or worldviews. it is truly challenging.

Colleen Kenny LaRocque

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Bob, the Cros says “Streaming stole my record money.”  Oh yeah? WHAT record money? The New Yorker, having no clue about music (they’re great in other areas) just ran a lengthy piece trashing Spotify.  I sent them a terse rebuttal, which they won’t print.  I’m annoyed at this shit.  The enterprisimg Daniel Ek could be somewhere else altogether, but instead he pulled the entire record industry up out of the craphole it had dug itself into, and now just look at the results benefitting consumers and creators alike.  Fuck Rogan, and fuck supposed music fans who’d rather line up with the last gasp of hippiedom than appreciate the most beneficial development since the debut of the 45.

Paul Lanning

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I want to shake David Macias’ hand and buy him a drink. Fuck it…two drinks.

Hugo Burnham