I loved talking to this guy. He wrote songs, played in cover bands and then connected with a last chance demo tape. He’s a fan, just like you and me. You’re going to enjoy this.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/christopher-cross/id1316200737?i=1000643785991

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