Guitarist extraordinaire and member of Toto Steve Lukather is brutally honest in this podcast, you need to hear it.

https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9ff4fb19-54d4-41ae-ae7a-8a6f8d3dafa8/episodes/7d8ba862-0b6f-4e13-a5fd-fcf86c599226/the-bob-lefsetz-podcast-steve-lukather

https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-bob-lefsetz-podcast/episode/steve-lukather-303952747