A must-listen!

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jon-batiste/id1316200737?i=1000729683233

https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9ff4fb19-54d4-41ae-ae7a-8a6f8d3dafa8/episodes/80ce0633-5e67-4a18-b1d0-ad3cf9ec797e/the-bob-lefsetz-podcast-jon-batiste