Stones In Stadiums

I don’t think Mick gets it. Nobody CARES anymore!

I could be wrong. Hell, who could have predicted Motley Crue would do the
business it is. But they’re playing arenas. And this is the FIRST wave of
nostalgia for people who came of age in the eighties. Haven’t the Stones been on
a comeback tour since 1989?

Maybe the Stones need Irving. Irving understands overexposure. You can’t
burn out the franchise. I remember as the initial Eagles reunion jaunt was
winding down, maybe after two years, probably early in 1996, Irving told me the
Eagles weren’t going to return until the millennium. And this turned out to be
true, their next gig was on New Year’s Eve 2000!

And the Eagles are smart enough to play arenas. What’s up with the
stadiums?? I felt the Stones got it the last time around, which seems like only
yesterday, they mixed it up by playing smaller halls, by playing material they’d
NEVER played in concert, it was special. What’s special about THIS tour? The
fact that they have a new album? A new Stones album hasn’t meant anything for
decades, and they haven’t put out a consistently good one for even longer.
And, even if it was "Let It Bleed" redux it wouldn’t make a difference, because
there’s nowhere to PLAY IT! Unless, of course, Mick’s about to bring Jay-Z out
of retirement for a duet. I mean not only does Top Forty not play the music
of old farts, however legendary, their audience DOESN’T CARE!

Anybody who believes this is the last tour and he’s got to see the band
ALREADY SAW THEM!! God, they’ve been implying it’s the last tour since the
EIGHTIES! As for kids…god, maybe if Mick and Keith went away, but they always seem
to be around, like your grandpa, wanting to hang with the children, it’s
CREEPY! I mean how in the hell do they plan on filling stadiums, especially at
THESE prices?? Yup, that’s just what an old fart wants. To pay over a hundred
bucks a ticket to sit on a hard seat so far away he’s got to use binoculars.
And it’s not like this is the first time he’s been to an outdoor gig, he knows
the sound is going to be SHITTY! Hate to tell you, price doesn’t matter to a
baby boomer. Hell, just look at the Eagles dates. What they want is to be
close, convenience, ACCESS!

And that’s another element Irving’s got down. Fan club? Paying money so you
can buy a ticket? That’s so NINETIES! Nobody believes you get anything for
your money, they know they’re being ripped off. It’s just an insult. The
model is flawed. It just pisses people off. The key is just to charge SOME
people a SHITLOAD of money for something unique, for access. Yup, give them a
laminate, let them come to soundcheck, let them eat with the crew. This is
PRICELESS! Which is why people will pay upwards of five hundred bucks for it.
Irving directed me to the Website for Van Halen, where this model was employed
for even a YOUNGER demo, he said to read the comments, people were RAVING! God, think about how many people lie and say they went to Woodstock, to show somebody your Stones laminate, and pics of you backstage, that’s enough to make these people’s LIVES!

But the Stones are getting all their money up front. As long as tickets are
selling today, the concert promoters don’t care about tomorrow. Hell, who
knows, maybe this tour will be a success. But what comes NEXT? It’s not like
there’s another band in mothballs that everybody wants to see and will pay in
excess of $100 a ticket to do so. None of these acts ever have good new
material. Hell, credit the Eagles, they won’t put any OUT! Henley says unless it’s
great, they don’t want to tarnish the legacy. Whereas the Stones are now a
cartoon. It’s would be hard for anybody under the age of forty to believe Mick
Jagger was once considered dangerous. It seems Brian Jones was the only one
who knew when to exit.

Oh, don’t tell me that the show is good. Hell, I know Mick slurs his words,
have you LISTENED to the recent live stuff? Don’t tell me to stop coming down
on these people. Hell, I don’t care if you’re a rock star or a high school
teacher, nowhere in your DNA is it written that you must sell out, sell your
soul for cash. Rock music used to have some INTEGRITY! That’s gone. And
that’s why nobody wants to see the new acts. And why the old acts are doing worse and worse business. God, isn’t that the basic RULE of show business? Not to overexpose something, to make it RARE?? Mick is so interested in the bucks,
he doesn’t HAVE a manager. And maybe that’s why he’s so clueless. God, think
of Stones tour announcements in the past and the one yesterday. It barely
made a ripple, you were lucky to HEAR about it!

And then you’ve got U2 doing a Stones stunt of yore, performing on a flatbed
truck to announce THEIR tour. I tell you, I’m sure you can have a good time
at ALL their shows, but this is not what this business was built upon, it’s not
why I’m interested. I don’t want to have a good time, I want to have the
TIME OF MY LIFE! I want to feel I’m at a unique, life-changing event, one you
feel lousy for the rest of your life if you MISS! Miss the Stones this time,
and you can see them again in three years, not that you have to, since, like I
stated above, if you were interested, you already HAVE!

It starts with music. U2’s album sold a boatload, but they haven’t done
anything to turn one’s head since 1992’s "Achtung Baby". Art is about testing
limits. Their last two albums were made to blueprint, if that gets you off, your
dick probably gets hard watching the "Today Show". But they learned it all
from the Stones. Paint a broad canvas, don’t worry about the elite, just play
to the ignorant masses, taking home all the money. I guess these bands are
entitled, but this has NOTHING to do with art. Count me OUT!

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  1. Comment by Mike Farrace | 2005/05/15 at 19:01:00

    I’m not sure I really understand what you’re trying to say here, except that the Stones are cashing in on their legacy and that’s not about art. Understood, but so what? I just returned from the Cream reunion at Albert Hall, an event which actually had meaning but which, ironically, was staged pretty much to fund the pensions of the two members who needed the dough.

    But while I was in the UK, I felt the buzz about the Stones tour. And when I got home, after waxing about the concert to my 16 year-old drummer son (who, by the way, seemed just as interested in the fact that Ginger played DW drums as in the fact that he sounded great despite his arthritis), his next question was whether I heard any good details about the Stones tour.

    John, my son, has said from time to time that he thinks our generation had all the best musical fun, and no matter how many times I tell him that he will find the same great feelings for his own musical era as time goes by, he still shakes his head like I don’t get it. Maybe he understands something I don’t (though I suspect that as much as I like to think otherwise for his sake, he may indeed be right), or maybe it doesn’t matter — that’s what he thinks.

    And, after I scrape the dough together yet again to see the Stones yet again but this time taking my 16 year old to Oakland or wherever they play, I will do so with a different perspective than I did on the maybe 10 or 12 other occasions I have seen the band. This time I will share the experience with my kid. And it won’t matter if they are great or if they suck. We will revel in our moment, just like we did when we saw Elvin Jones a couple of months before he died, barely able to hold his sticks much less dazzle us. It was an unforgettable night for us both because it was about life and the way it goes.

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  3. Comment by John Brodey | 2005/05/23 at 22:32:22

    Re: Stones and the generational gap. My son said he’d go see them if neither of us had to pay for tickets. Part of me says he should see them but then the stadium experience is no way to see anything including the Superbowl. I can’t believe there was ‘excitement’ in England over their 23rd reunion tour. Unless they think that may help fool us Yanks once again. I’m just going to get the DVD of the Altamont concert and tell him this is how it used to be. My son feels like our era produced the best music and I don’t bother telling him he’ll find stuff from his adolescence that’s just as good cause he wouldn’t believe me. He says aside from Nirvana and Queens of the Stone Age, it’s only an occasional track here and there that he likes. There can’t be more than a half a dozen on his iPod from the last ten years. I don’t blame him. One thing we’ve both decided though is that we’ll be first in line when AC/DC comes to town, THAT would be worth a hundred dollars, but even in an arena I doubt they’ll be that high.


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  1. Comment by Mike Farrace | 2005/05/15 at 19:01:00

    I’m not sure I really understand what you’re trying to say here, except that the Stones are cashing in on their legacy and that’s not about art. Understood, but so what? I just returned from the Cream reunion at Albert Hall, an event which actually had meaning but which, ironically, was staged pretty much to fund the pensions of the two members who needed the dough.

    But while I was in the UK, I felt the buzz about the Stones tour. And when I got home, after waxing about the concert to my 16 year-old drummer son (who, by the way, seemed just as interested in the fact that Ginger played DW drums as in the fact that he sounded great despite his arthritis), his next question was whether I heard any good details about the Stones tour.

    John, my son, has said from time to time that he thinks our generation had all the best musical fun, and no matter how many times I tell him that he will find the same great feelings for his own musical era as time goes by, he still shakes his head like I don’t get it. Maybe he understands something I don’t (though I suspect that as much as I like to think otherwise for his sake, he may indeed be right), or maybe it doesn’t matter — that’s what he thinks.

    And, after I scrape the dough together yet again to see the Stones yet again but this time taking my 16 year old to Oakland or wherever they play, I will do so with a different perspective than I did on the maybe 10 or 12 other occasions I have seen the band. This time I will share the experience with my kid. And it won’t matter if they are great or if they suck. We will revel in our moment, just like we did when we saw Elvin Jones a couple of months before he died, barely able to hold his sticks much less dazzle us. It was an unforgettable night for us both because it was about life and the way it goes.

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    1. Comment by John Brodey | 2005/05/23 at 22:32:22

      Re: Stones and the generational gap. My son said he’d go see them if neither of us had to pay for tickets. Part of me says he should see them but then the stadium experience is no way to see anything including the Superbowl. I can’t believe there was ‘excitement’ in England over their 23rd reunion tour. Unless they think that may help fool us Yanks once again. I’m just going to get the DVD of the Altamont concert and tell him this is how it used to be. My son feels like our era produced the best music and I don’t bother telling him he’ll find stuff from his adolescence that’s just as good cause he wouldn’t believe me. He says aside from Nirvana and Queens of the Stone Age, it’s only an occasional track here and there that he likes. There can’t be more than a half a dozen on his iPod from the last ten years. I don’t blame him. One thing we’ve both decided though is that we’ll be first in line when AC/DC comes to town, THAT would be worth a hundred dollars, but even in an arena I doubt they’ll be that high.

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