Legendary comedian/writer.

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/carol-leifer/id1316200737?i=1000744276536

https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9ff4fb19-54d4-41ae-ae7a-8a6f8d3dafa8/episodes/f1369451-80da-40d8-8f18-12e4ec3aa944/the-bob-lefsetz-podcast-carol-leifer