{"id":2619,"date":"2010-01-25T13:06:38","date_gmt":"2010-01-25T21:06:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/?p=2619"},"modified":"2010-01-25T16:31:57","modified_gmt":"2010-01-26T00:31:57","slug":"re-was-madonna-prerecorded","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/2010\/01\/25\/re-was-madonna-prerecorded\/","title":{"rendered":"Re-Was Madonna Prerecorded?"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Bob that looked and sounded live. The mic was live.\u00c2\u00a0 You could hear her hand bumping it.\u00c2\u00a0 Her pitch was not perfect, like someone singing in a live situation where monitoring might not have been ideal.\u00c2\u00a0 I’m watching in my hotel room where the wi-fi isn’t zooming but my gut says Madonna showed up and sang it live.<\/p>\n

Tommy Shaw<\/p>\n

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OH MY GOD!\u00c2\u00a0 I THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY.\u00c2\u00a0 I KEPT MARVELING AT WHAT A PERFECT VOCAL SHE WAS DELIVERING, KEPT SAYING TO MYSELF, THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE FROM HER … BUT I JUST COULDN’T BELIEVE THEY WOULD DO IT … NOT WITH EVERYONE ELSE PERFORMING LIVE.\u00c2\u00a0 WHAT A FRAUD SHE IS, ALWAYS HAS BEEN. \u00c2\u00a0
THANKS SO MUCH.\u00c2\u00a0 NOW I KNOW I’M NOT CRAZY.\u00c2\u00a0 MUCH LOVE. \u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

Kisses, Cherry Vanilla<\/div>\n

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Bob:<\/p>\n

I didn’t watch the live performance but based on this YouTube video, I can clearly hear the thumping during the clapping.\u00c2\u00a0 If this allegation is solely based on not hearing the clapping thump on the mic, then it is clearly incorrect.<\/p>\n

Alex Lifeson<\/div>\n

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FYI: The easiest way to tell is by observing the proximity effect.
As with all sound sources, the presence of a voice changes dramatically when the singer either moves closer or further away from the mic, AND when he\/she moves off axis. In live situations the mics used are predominantly sharply focused highly unidirectional.
If a singer turns his\/her head, or moves away, or looks to the side, the perceived effect is instant and clear.
That’s one reason why all the movies about rock bands feel bogus, and how it is easiest to tell when a lip sync is going on.<\/p>\n

David Rubinson<\/div>\n

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Bob,<\/p>\n

Here is how that is done.<\/p>\n

The engineer is using the mic she has in her hand to trigger a gate on the pre-recorded track.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 This way the pre-recorded track only plays when she sings into the mic in her hand.\u00c2\u00a0 Check 2:06 into the video.\u00c2\u00a0 The line is, "Life is a mystery." but all we hear is "…is a mystery."\u00c2\u00a0 You can hear the gate pop open when she gets the mic up to her mouth.\u00c2\u00a0 It sounded 40% live 60% pre-recorded to me.<\/div>\n

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-Foster Hagey<\/p>\n

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Bob,<\/p>\n

Yes, I agree with Tommy and Alex, I saw it live and could tell she was singing. If it had been part track plus live voice you would have heard it double tracking.
I believe she was singing it live. <\/p>\n

Peter Frampton<\/p>\n

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Foster is absolutely correct…<\/p>\n

(From a veteran engineer in Nashville.\u00c2\u00a0 Please withhold my name… clients hate us ratting them out.)<\/p>\n

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Well… looks like Foster gave up the big secret. And he’s likely right on the money. I’ve had to mix a dozen artists the same way and it’s a shame, but you can clearly hear the gate chop of "Life" and then open for the rest of the line. Also, the Vocal should change color based on the proximity of the voice to the mic… although she is moving around quite a bit, the tonal color of the vocal part never wavers… a dead giveaway.<\/p>\n

Matt Forsyth<\/p>\n

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Bob,<\/p>\n

listen carefully. The choir is live and they are singing in a slightly higher pitch at the end than Madonna is singing. The most common thing is for a live acapella choir to have their pitch move upward, downward, all together. Madonna can’t go with them because her track is locked. It is out of tune because the lead vocal is not singing<\/p>\n

Hunter Murtaugh<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Bob that looked and sounded live. The mic was live.\u00c2\u00a0 You could hear her hand bumping it.\u00c2\u00a0 Her pitch was not perfect, like someone singing in a live situation where monitoring might not have been ideal.\u00c2\u00a0 I’m watching in my hotel room where the wi-fi isn’t zooming but my gut says Madonna showed up and […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2619","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-live-shows"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p96vPs-Gf","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2619","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2619"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2619\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2623,"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2619\/revisions\/2623"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2619"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2619"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2619"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}