{"id":22519,"date":"2025-09-29T18:10:26","date_gmt":"2025-09-30T02:10:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/?p=22519"},"modified":"2025-09-29T18:10:26","modified_gmt":"2025-09-30T02:10:26","slug":"re-job-firings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/2025\/09\/29\/re-job-firings\/","title":{"rendered":"Re-Job Firings"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Note: There&#8217;s a fiction that everyone who was fired was, as a writer below puts it, &#8220;dancing on his (Charlie Kirk&#8217;s) grave.&#8221; But that is untrue.<\/p>\n<p>This is what Suzanne Swierc posted on her PRIVATE Facebook page:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you think Charlie Kirk was a wonderful person, we can\u2019t be friends.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She lost her job.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;She Was Fired for a Comment on Her Private Facebook Account &#8211; A look at how one state has turbocharged the crackdown on anyone who has criticized Charlie Kirk after his death.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Free link: https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/09\/29\/us\/charlie-kirk-free-speech.html?unlocked_article_code=1.p08.0y9U.dW-QpdWTqqT0&amp;smid=url-share<\/p>\n<p>As for the people who lost their jobs:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;A Broad Wave of Firings Followed Charlie Kirk\u2019s Assassination &#8211; More than 145 people in a wide range of occupations have been fired or disciplined after they made statements about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Free link: https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/09\/26\/us\/kirk-critics-fired-free-speech.html?unlocked_article_code=1.p08.z4n1.B8NUT8asjUUx&amp;smid=url-share<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Freedom of speech isn&#8217;t going public with your glee at a father and husband&#8217;s horrific\u00a0assassination.\u00a0 I wouldn&#8217;t want these assholes in my workplace.\u00a0 If you have these kind of negative thoughts, talk to yourself.\u00a0 Feel free to have that inner voice, no matter how toxic.<\/p>\n<p>We don&#8217;t have to hear it.<\/p>\n<p>Jonathan Gross<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>the best charlie kirk eulogy<\/p>\n<p>Charlie Kirk\u2019s Legacy Deserves No Mourning<\/p>\n<p>The white Christian nationalist provocateur wasn\u2019t a promoter of civil discourse. He preached hate, bigotry, and division.<\/p>\n<p>Elizabeth Spiers:<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.thenation.com\/article\/politics\/charlie-kirk-assassination-maga\/<\/p>\n<p>Jeff Weicher<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; No one should be assassinated.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Respectfully, I think Vladimir Putin should be assassinated. Preferably by a Russian (in Russia). But i&#8217;d settle for a Ukrainian (in Russia) with a clean shot.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway other than that quibble I&#8217;m with you.<\/p>\n<p>Brian Reiser<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Could you publish a list of these employers. Maybe some companies we could decide not to use?<\/p>\n<p>Cam Combs<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Some fair points here but you also I think need to take into consideration the fact that when you\u2019ve got people like school teachers and public employees that go online \u201cgrave dancing\u201c then employers have a right to judge that behavior in the context with which it was shared. There are definitely work standards that employers have, and if you choose to go online and make ghoulish, celebratory remarks about somebody\u2019s death, yes, you have a right to do it, but others have a right to respond as well. It goes both ways.<\/p>\n<p>Chris Epting<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Your acting like this is something new, a hundred ish people, nothing,<\/p>\n<p>Try in the 10\u2019s of thousands just in California alone in 2016, just to say you support Trump. I saw it at my workplace,<\/p>\n<p>145 people, ha nothing<\/p>\n<p>Julien Jorgensen<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>fear based leadership (authoritarian light)<\/p>\n<p>cause they don\u2019t have the ideas or majority of the people<\/p>\n<p>Coley<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Bob, your post really spoke to me. Not just because of the political nature of these recent firings, but also because of the economic one. Over the last two years, I&#8217;ve spoken with more than 2,500 people who&#8217;ve either been impacted by layoffs or work for companies that have done layoffs&#8230;I think what we&#8217;re seeing right now is politically charged but especially economically motivated. Employers, especially big corporations, are willing to part with long-time employees for almost any reasons&#8230;in some cases, they&#8217;re inventing reasons to do it then saying they justified it under the guise of A.I. It&#8217;s really unfortunately so many working and middle class people are being caught up in this era of greed, hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance, but I am trying to do my part with the work I&#8217;m doing.<\/p>\n<p>Joah Spearman<\/p>\n<p>Founder, TenYour<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Here&#8217;s one of our\u00a0customers, post-layoff: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=43zVXwwV6dg<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Sadly you hit the bullseye once again, Bob.<br \/>\nThis an\u2019t the country I grew up in! Yeah, I\u2019m old,<br \/>\nbut I still believe in America and not this Amerika.<br \/>\nInfected by the creeping orange menace.<br \/>\nKeep up the good work, although the majority<br \/>\ndo not want to hear truth or logic.<br \/>\nThanks for the words<\/p>\n<p>Jimmy Wachtel<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You just ruined this person&#8217;s life. Maybe their family&#8217;s life. FOR EXERCISING THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Right. It&#8217;s called cancel culture. Who do you think started it?<\/p>\n<p>John Naglick<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Uh, this has been going on for quite some time under leftist ideology there, Bob\u2026.Is this a joke?<\/p>\n<p>Zdunski v. Erie 2-BOCES (2d Cir. 2023) \u2014 Public-school employee fired after refusing mandatory LGBTQ anti-bias training; court rejected his religious-discrimination claim.<br \/>\nLittler Mendelson P.C.<\/p>\n<p>Snyder v. Arconic (8th Cir. 2024) \u2014 Factory worker fired after posting that the Pride rainbow was an \u201cabomination to God\u201d on company intranet; appeals court said the firing did not violate civil-rights law.<\/p>\n<p>Vlaming v. West Point School Board (Va.) \u2014 HS teacher terminated in 2018 for declining a student\u2019s pronouns; after Va. Supreme Court revived his claims, the district settled for $575,000 in 2024 and cleared his record.<br \/>\nJustia Law<\/p>\n<p>Kluge v. Brownsburg Community School Corp. (7th Cir. 2025) \u2014 Music teacher who used last-names-only accommodation for religious reasons; appeals court revived his Title VII claim, sending it to a jury (post-Groff standard).<\/p>\n<p>Meriwether v. Hartop (Shawnee State Univ.) (6th Cir. 2021; settlement 2022) \u2014 Professor disciplined over pronouns won key First-Amendment ruling and later a $400,000 settlement.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo to DEI training\u201d case (2024) \u2014 Employee fired for refusing unconscious-bias training; lawsuit dismissed and dismissal affirmed on appeal.<\/p>\n<p>Shall I go on?<\/p>\n<p>Todd Fernandez<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>How jews can support anything the democrats do is f*cking bewildering\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Harv Glazer<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Bob,<\/p>\n<p>It appears you are off the medication. Get back on them, stat!<\/p>\n<p>Jason Gomperz<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s become infuriating. Have you been on X lately? It\u2019s just mean spirited people using pronoun word salad like thy\/them to sow division. It used to be informative and now it\u2019s regurgitating talking points then people commenting using f bombs and hitler to make their point. No one is principled and standing up for the constitution or what makes us America; it\u2019s all gotcha screaming at one another and bucketing people into 2 camps. Last but not least, if people really wanted to honor Charlie Kirk, the one thing I agreed w him on was love civil discourse. Screaming at each other online w no desire to listen or learn is a waste of time. We can\u2019t go on like this.<\/p>\n<p>Mark Burrell<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s called white supremacy, Bob &#8211; a centuries-old project run by the ruling class to strip ancestral identity from poor (and now middle-class) European Americans, give us elevated socioeconomic status, and galvanize us as a unified front against the Black, Brown, and Indigenous human beings from whom they extract labor and resources.<\/p>\n<p>CK was a mouthpiece for white supremacy. And now he&#8217;s a martyr for it.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the kind of f*cked-up world we&#8217;re living in.<\/p>\n<p>Shawn Madden<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>amen, brother!<\/p>\n<p>Doug Van Pelt<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s cancel culture x 10, with a dose of cruelty added in<\/p>\n<p>Mike Renault<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Last year, while I was working at a corporate music company, one of the department heads walked into a meeting with a \u201cFree Palestine\u201d sticker prominently displayed on a company-issued MacBook\u2014in a room with more than its share of colleagues of the Jewish faith. Exercising their right to free speech. No one said a word.<\/p>\n<p>Then I thought: what if someone had walked in wearing a MAGA hat?<\/p>\n<p>We both know that would\u2019ve been a very different outcome. Freedom of speech in the workplace isn\u2019t absolute\u2014it\u2019s filtered through company culture, peer dynamics, and public perception.<\/p>\n<p>Timothy J. Smith<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>This is the same society who tried to make a hero out of a 5 time felon. \u00a0Floyd didn\u2019t deserve to die under police supervision and neither did Kirk, but neither were heroes. \u00a0Yet people lost their livelihoods in both cases just for stating an opinion. \u00a0\u00a0Something is not right.<\/p>\n<p>Tim W<br \/>\nin Calgary<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>How many gov employees lost their job for not wanting to take a vaccine&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Marc Baxter<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Mr.Charlie Kirk preached hate for others who didn\u2019t align with his thinking ~<\/p>\n<p>Thats enough to make me turn away ~<\/p>\n<p>R. Singer<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Freedom of speech doesn\u2019t preclude consequences to that speech<\/p>\n<p>Celebrating a murder is cause for banishment from polite society<\/p>\n<p>Tim Endres<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Thank you for taking a stance here!<\/p>\n<p>I grew up in West Germany and i start to get the distinct feeling that we are getting closer to the East german Days where you had to keep your mouth shut or else.<\/p>\n<p>i am a green card holder and i am already self censoring in the land of the free\u2026<\/p>\n<p>yeah right<\/p>\n<p>christian petke<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>They are free to exercise their rights and employers are free to exercise their rights to employment people who represent them in a positive manner. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. How about don\u2019t pee on someone\u2019s grave the day after they were publicly executed. You do that and you\u2019re a bad person and you get what you deserve. It\u2019s good that they are self identifying so the good people can stay away from them.<\/p>\n<p>Chip Hines<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>This is no different than when people were forced to be vaccinated during Covid. No proof of vaccination, no entrance. No vaccination, you are discharged from the military. Refuse to use someone\u2019s pronouns, you\u2019re labeled homophobic.<\/p>\n<p>Shoes on the other foot now and it doesn\u2019t feel good does it.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis Paulik<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>So glad to see this post in recognition of what people go through.<\/p>\n<p>Free speech is today&#8217;s news. What about the 300,000 federal workers who have been laid off or fired in this administration supposedly in the name of efficiency.\u00a0https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/2025\/09\/27\/us\/federal-workers-trump-layoffs.html<\/p>\n<p>This president is a job killer.<\/p>\n<p>Britt Benston<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>You are correct Bob; what kind of f-upped world do we live in when mobs rule.<\/p>\n<p>You rail against the mob on the right. You ignore the mob on the left. Remember, the mob on the left started &#8220;cancel culture.&#8221; In fact, I would posit that the far left progressives started the whole &#8220;mob culture&#8221; that we endure today.<\/p>\n<p>But hey, I&#8217;m just a guy who tries to see the world in all its shades of grey.<\/p>\n<p>Matt Grandi<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>What is so outrageous, uncomprehensible, unprecedented, and shocking is how America could after 250 years as the apex global example of a government dependent on a majority of &#8220;we the people&#8221; laws and freedoms (especially of speech) be so easily hijacked and tyrannized by a convicted felon and sexual assaulter, pathological liar, and unapologetic egomaniac, and his supporters.<\/p>\n<p>Alan Segal<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Your culpable.\u00a0 You are so blindingly biased.\u00a0 \u00a0It is such a shame.<\/p>\n<p>Kevin Patrick Connors<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Welcome to our world. \u00a0All those attacked for questioning the jab. \u00a0Jobs lost was just the tip of the iceberg. \u00a0So t forget Jimmy\u2019s \u201cjoke\u201d, \u201csorry Wheezie, \u00a0o medical care for you\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d like to see your email box now.<\/p>\n<p>Woke cancel culture coming home to roost.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately what was once teachable moments are becoming crimes. \u00a0Bring on the digital ID.<\/p>\n<p>Ed Kelly<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>The snitch culture that Republicans have created has more in common with Pinochet\u2019s Chile, the glory days of the Stasi or Saddam Hussein\u2019s Baath party than the whole Spirit of America\/small government\/rugged individual ethos they are so fond of preaching about out of the other side of their mouths.<\/p>\n<p>Vince Welsh<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not afraid Bob-<br \/>\nI don\u2019t say stupid things at the workplace or online. That\u2019s the difference you are missing. I don\u2019t dance on graves or wish Ill will. I can control my emotions and do not need to broadcast them to an echo chamber of hate online that will be yesterday\u2019s news before yesterday is even yesterday. \u00a0You can make mistakes &#8211; we are human. You are correct on that. Why make your hateful opinion online for all to see then wonder why you lost your job? Why make that post? That is the difference &#8211; it\u2019s undisciplined and selfish to broadcast that over the social media platform and bot expect a backlash. Have some self control! Maybe people will start thinking twice when something bad happens.<\/p>\n<p>Tony DeStefano<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>hey bob,up in canada we can still speak the truth.charlie kirk was a straight up racist,sexist,hate monger.i am a pacifist so obviously don&#8217;t condone murder but to memorialize this guy is just insane.sorry to see where the u.s. is heading.i&#8217;ve got a gig across the border in washington state but i&#8217;m gonna pass.don&#8217;t want to deal with u.s. border nazis.nik tee<\/p>\n<p>Nick Tatroff<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Hmm,\u00a0 it&#8217;s a little like leftist people writing off family members, ending friendships or kicking people out of restaurants and stores just because they&#8217;re a Trump fan.\u00a0 \u00a0Shoe hurts a little when it&#8217;s on the other foot, eh?<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t like Obama, but no way would I ever be jumping for joy if he got assassinated.\u00a0 And I would worry about the character of any person who would.<\/p>\n<p>You write: &#8220;They&#8217;re coming for you if you&#8217;re not like them, if you say anything in contradiction of their agenda.&#8221;\u00a0 Bob, that&#8217;s the EXACT playbook leftwingers were following when Biden was in office, and Obama before him, and many are still following it.\u00a0 They figured they&#8217;d be in charge from now till eternity, so they could have anything they wanted.\u00a0 But now the other side is in power and they&#8217;re suddenly frothing at the mouth, unable to deal with it.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re supposed to talk to each other, not fight with each other.\u00a0 Social media is ruining this country.\u00a0 That&#8217;s it.\u00a0 We need to figure that puzzle out and just talk to each other without shooting.<\/p>\n<p>Mike Blakesley<\/p>\n<p>One would think it&#8217;s so unhinged\u00a0and laughably hypocritical\u00a0that a rational populace would see through the BS propaganda.\u00a0 I can&#8217;t help but think that with over 50% of the country reading at or below a 6th grade level we are reaping what we&#8217;ve sown.<\/p>\n<p>Kirby Hammel<\/p>\n<p>Bob I think you have convenient amnesia, it was the Left who started this with &#8220;cancel culture&#8221;!! You had no problem when it was conservative comics and people losing their jobs and being censored on Twitter. But now it is the end of the world cause it&#8217;s liberals losing their jobs for saying very hateful things. I though you Bob and the Left were against hate, ah I guess it&#8217;s just when it affects your side that it is OK.\u00a0 Not a good take at all Bob!!<\/p>\n<p>Doug Gillis<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>That was an excellent one. I have no idea where we go from here and it sounds like you don\u2019t either.<\/p>\n<p>Rik Shafer<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s hard to believe that all these snowflakes on the right don\u2019t see their own hypocrisy. How can you whine for years about cancel culture and then want to see everyone fired who doesn\u2019t glorify Charlie Kirk, a blatantly white supremacist, misogynist hater? Shame on every employer who\u2019s gone down this route. It stinks of Nazi Germany. In its early years, if you didn\u2019t salute when the brown shirts sang the Horst Wessel song (glorifying a fascist thug killed in a street battle with communists) they beat you up, or worse. Later it was concentration camps, torture, murder.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m proud of you for telling it like it is, Bob.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks,<\/p>\n<p>Ross Eisenbrey<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Bob &#8211; Lifelong democrat here, usually agree with you but what you said regarding those openly celebrating the assassination of a public figure is completely disingenuous. First, they got fired for openly celebrating his death online in really vile ways (made me ashamed to be a democrat honestly), and while that is protected under free speech, a private company may feel that this kind of abhorrent behavior doesn\u2019t fit their corporate culture; which is entirely fair. I would definitely fire someone who did that regardless of who was assassinated because it makes me as an employer look bad!<\/p>\n<p>As for the January 6\u2019rs that\u2019s an entirely separate debate and we can\u2019t conflate the two, very different arguments and circumstances.<\/p>\n<p>Kind regards,<\/p>\n<p>Mikael Johnston<br \/>\nMephisto Odyssey<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>All i can say about this is you reap what you sow. The left set this as the standard a decade ago and are now being held to it. Welcome to the receiving end of cancel culture. I believe there are thousands of articles and books written by the left on why its a good thing.<\/p>\n<p>Brendon Wood<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d like to take\u00a0this opportunity again to remind everyone that this is all a distraction from what\u2019s happened to our country. The rich have gotten richer,\u00a0the poor have gotten poorer and the middle class has evaporated. One side is actively trying to dismantle this end stage capitalism while the other thinks the enemy is a trans person who dyes their hair and has nose rings. That\u2019s all.<\/p>\n<p>Just Danny Jay<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Thank you Bob.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, it\u2019s hard to fathom what\u2019s happened to our country since Trump was re-elected. And if we don\u2019t vote like our democracy demands we do, we will lose it.<\/p>\n<p>Trump\u2019s not sending the National Guard and Marines into cities because of violence in these cities. And he\u2019s sure not doing it because he thinks he\u2019s \u201cwinning.\u201d These are \u201ctrial balloons\u201d that he\u2019s using so when the GOP loses the upcoming midterms, he will say the election was rigged against him and therefore disallow the results. But by then, he\u2019ll have more experience in sending troops into cities to quell any uprisings that will occur because people will be out and protesting.<\/p>\n<p>Where\u2019s the guardrails today? The GOP Congress and Senate are completely in the tank for Trump. Certainly not the Supreme Court, which seems to vote in favor of what ever Trump wants. Our Constitution will need to be seriously amended and\/or rewritten as we can\u2019t allow any future person to claim to have the authority Trump is abusing now.<\/p>\n<p>More than ever, voting is not just our right, it\u2019s our duty. Let\u2019s not waste it!<\/p>\n<p>Robby Scharf<br \/>\nBeverly Hills, CA<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m with you 100%. This is how dictators and authoritarian governments work. They create a culture of fear. And wait until the king declares martial law\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>Carl Nelson<\/p>\n<p>Woodstock, MD<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Right on Bob.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time he\u2019s bestowing national honors on make-believe martyrs, and his followers are meting out his master\u2019s punishments on ordinary people, Trump\u2019s blaming and demonizing the \u201cleft\u201d with gleeful hatred and whipping everyone up into a frenzy.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, he is building up his own troops so they\u2019re ready to go the minute he says they have to fight a war in all our major cities (he\u2019s already using language to get us used to the idea by saying there\u2019s a war in Portland right now).<\/p>\n<p>He will then declare a state of emergency and cancel the 2028 elections. He hinted he would do this over chuckles with Zelensky (who did so in Ukraine as Russian bombs we\u2019re landing) as they sat together in the oval in front of Trump\u2019s Russia-envying gold wall adornments. Only, he\u2019s not kidding.<\/p>\n<p>In the final act, every Republican governor will rubber stamp what Trump wants and boom, no more democracy. No more beautiful America. My wondrous and inspiring country that I love so much will be dead forever.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s over Johnny.<\/p>\n<p>Paul Gigante<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Yep.<\/p>\n<p>Once again you indulge yourself in this peculiar form of cultural and political amnesia.\u00a0 Akin to an hallucination.\u00a0 You have blue-pilled yourself into a fatal form of delirium.\u00a0 Like a fever that never breaks.<\/p>\n<p>EVERYTHING you just said \u2014 E V E R Y T H I N G \u2014\u00a0EXACTLY maps to the years 2020-2024.\u00a0 Bingo my friend.<\/p>\n<p>So, well, as my mother used to say, \u00a0Tough Nuggies.\u00a0 Suck it up straw man.<\/p>\n<p>andy lavalle<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Shoe&#8217;s on the other foot now. It&#8217;s beautiful to see!<\/p>\n<p>John Frye<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>you are joking, right?<\/p>\n<p>the left invented cancel culture bob<\/p>\n<p>Ira Transport<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you storm the capitol you get pardoned? Jesus Christ, you are dishonest.<\/p>\n<p>600 of the J6 rioters had already been convicted or pled guilty to some charge. The pardons were not an effort to evade responsibility for whatever law was broken, but to end the persecution from the Biden admin. They paid a price. There were 14 commutations of sentences where people were in JAIL\u2026they were let out.<\/p>\n<p>The people who got fired were fired by private citizens. That\u2019s what happens when you speak out\u2026there\u2019s always a price for it\u2026you have to b e willing to pay. And if you think killing Charlie Kirk was ok, why did you want to work for or with someone who loved him?<\/p>\n<p>Thanks,<\/p>\n<p>Bob Sheehan<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Let me fix one of your sentences:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s\u00a0not only racism that&#8217;s going to make you lose your job, but opining on the death of a racist.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>With all the hero worship going on, isn\u2019t it telling that we haven\u2019t seen a Kirk tribute about the man and his words &#8211; you know, like those produced in honor of people like JFK or MLK?<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, many on the right feel Kirk is deserving\u00a0&#8211; and yet compiling and playing back Kirk\u2019s own words would likely be viewed by those same people as disrespectful. About whom else deserving of such a tribute can one say that?<\/p>\n<p>George Wood<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Dude, are you serious? Yes, you lose your JOB!! \u00a0If you had an employee openly and gleefully celebrating the assassination of a human being, and you just sit back and claim, &#8220;oh, it\u2019s their right under the first amendment, yadda, yadda, yadda,&#8221; then you are part of the problem. None of these people were required to be on the &#8220;Charlie Kirk was a hero train&#8221;. These were disgusting evil people. \u00a0You don\u2019t have to like the guy, but to throw an online party when a father and husband was brutally murdered is showing some pretty nasty colors. I\u2019m wondering if you\u2019d have the same attitude if you had an employee that exhibited their absolute excitement in the social media strastophere that the world was better off with 1200 less Jewish people after October 7, 2023. I\u2019m guessing no. Thankfully, unlike you, organizations have morals, standards and guidelines that employees are expected to adhere to. I don\u2019t want those types of people teaching our children. I don\u2019t want those types of people anesthetizing me during surgery. You can have them all to yourself.<\/p>\n<p>Alex Novielli<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>You still don&#8217;t understand; this is a game of taking scalps. &#8220;You make me cry, I make you cry.&#8221; &#8220;You get me fired, I get you fired.&#8221; You don&#8217;t get to cry about about the other side being better at a game that you and your party invented. If you had any balls you would have yelled about &#8220;cancel culture&#8221; when your side invented it a few years back. Remember when everyone had to bow at the altar of &#8220;Me Too&#8221; or &#8220;BLM&#8221;? Two movements that have now been objectively shown as being nothing more than capricious cash grabs. No, you have to sit back and take this. The rules were thrown out on September 10th when an individual on your side of the political aisle shot a man in his neck and we witnessed scumbags dancing on his grave. And don&#8217;t twist this into some 1st Amendment issue. You have every right to say what you want to say without fear of reprisal from the government; however I&#8217;m free to completely disassociate with anyone who sadistically cheers when a Husband and Father gets viciously murdered. No tears shed and no quarter given to low lives who condone and celebrate murder. If you feel so badly about it Bob please feel free to hire them to work for you.<\/p>\n<p>Frank\u00a0Costanza<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Yep. \u00a0You must weep and wail and beat your breast and gnash your teeth, but it may not be enough to satisfy the buzzing wasp nest\u2026<br \/>\nThey put the flags at half mast so apparently he was some kind of hero, just like the soldiers who fired down on unarmed women and children at Wounded Knee. \u00a0The heroes must keep their medals, Hegaeth said. \u00a0There\u2019s no rewriting history, they say. \u00a0Just cover your heart and recite the pledge and hope they don\u2019t come take you away.<\/p>\n<p>Geronimo Son<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>What kind of F\u2019d up world does the POTUS preemptively pardons staff members, guilty of covid crimes, as he\u2019s leaving office on his way to a dementia nursing home.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>From the most recent video evidence, it doesn\u2019t look like the patsy Tyler Robinson killed saint Charlie. It was an intelligence organization, either US or foreign. He was too effective not to off and stepped too far out of his lane in the eyes of the supreme leaders, talking about ending the Israeli war funding, Epstein files, questioning the avant-garde DEI ideology, among other contentious issues. No one is too sacred not to off when billions are involved.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Obama and Clinton deported way more non-citizens than Trump has even come close to. It was a corner stone of both their administrations. Trumps methods are too heavy handed, but it\u2019s the same red line.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In general, leaders want citizens to be distracted with low priorities that inflame their ire, like immigration, while they run off with the bag.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>We saw this with Cheney and Rumsfeld\u2019s war in the middle east when they earned trillions through war profiteering.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>We saw it during the subprime mortgage crisis when Banks and Financial institutions got bailed out to make trillions.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The Ukraine war profiteering.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Israeli\u2019s Gaza war profiteering.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>DOGE uncovered the corrupt NGOs funneling billions into nefarious programs and personal accounts.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tack on Trump and Melania\u2019s meme coins. All of crypto, depending on how one views that unregulated, nebulous world.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>My advice is: Focus on improving your city and state, not on the charade of political distractions.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Writing about the Left or Right\u2019s extreme ideology doesn\u2019t encourage anyone to do anything but shake their head and dig their heels in.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I remain an Independent, because both sides have lost the script.\u00a0 But in the final stages of empire, as Ray Dalio inculcates, this is inevitable.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I create and lead by example, that\u2019s how I make a difference.\u00a0 You\u2019re just whining.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Best,<\/p>\n<p>Alan Matkovic<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been a loyal follower of yours for years and always enjoy your commentary. Whether I agree or disagree, it\u2019s always good to explore different opinions and you consistently make me think.<\/p>\n<p>I see this differently. The First Amendment protects us from government limits on speech, but it does not stop a private employer from setting standards and taking action when an employee\u2019s public comments hurt the company\u2019s reputation. That is not government censorship.<\/p>\n<p>It is also not the same as a Capitol rioter getting a pardon. Hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol have been prosecuted and sentenced. A few high-profile pardons do not erase that.<\/p>\n<p>Public backlash online is not Soviet-style repression. People are using their own right to free expression when they call out something offensive. Employers can then decide whether that speech conflicts with their values.<\/p>\n<p>Losing a job is serious, but there are legal protections such as unemployment benefits and, when appropriate, wrongful termination claims. People do rebuild careers after controversy.<\/p>\n<p>Most of the high-profile firings have involved speech or actions that clearly broke a code of conduct, often things like racism or harassment. And many people who make a public mistake apologize and eventually move forward.<\/p>\n<p>So I see a big difference between private accountability and government suppression of speech. We can and should debate how employers respond, but calling it creeping authoritarianism is a stretch.<\/p>\n<p>Hope this helps add to the conversation. This kind of discourse is exactly what Charlie would have wanted.<\/p>\n<p>Keep the hits coming, we can take it.<\/p>\n<p>Concerned Citizen<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>You are correct on all counts, Bob. It&#8217;s become a sh*t show and it&#8217;s going to get worse. If anyone gets shot and killed by a left-leaning zealot this is all this administration needs to activate the apparatus to declare martial law and go after anyone who protests. They&#8217;ve already done it and they&#8217;re doing it now. The man in the oval office is of questionable mental health, and so is the MAGA right. You have every reason to fear speaking out because that&#8217;s who they&#8217;ll go after. Who wants to place a target on their own back and for what? Speaking truth they don&#8217;t believe anyway?<\/p>\n<p>Just like they did with the so called &#8216;Communists&#8217; in the McCarthy era, and just like they villified Jews in Nazi Germany. Innocent people who only mean well and want what&#8217;s best for the greater good are the ones they will go after, if for no other reason that they threaten the status quo. This is how dictatorships work. Can it be stopped? I don&#8217;t know how, they elected this guy and he&#8217;s stacked the courts and government with his supporters and if anyone objects they get fired and another sycophant is hired. It&#8217;s complete insanity. Do you think Trump&#8217;s going to leave office in 2028? Hell no! They are already setting the stage for making sure he isn&#8217;t going anywhere. There are a lot of rich powerful people behind this. He who holds the gold makes the rules!<\/p>\n<p>If people protest in large enough numbers I suppose it could make a difference but what happens when Trump and the MAGA machine use the National Guard and ICE to round up the protestors? It&#8217;s astonishing to me we&#8217;ve reached this point but we have and each day it appears to be getting worse.<\/p>\n<p>When people like Charlie Kirk are made into national heroes for spewing the terrible things he said, well&#8230; I think that says it all.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a documentary out there by Errol Morris called AMERICAN DHARMA. In it, Steve Bannon is interviewed where he talks about creating a civil war. It&#8217;s a scary watch because everything in it is coming true. God help us all.<\/p>\n<p>Mark Curran &#8211; Los Angeles, CA<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not a conspiracy theorist. I do watch and look carefully at things aware of minute details many miss. I felt something was strange and now believe the Kirk killing was a planned hit job. I know you will think I\u2019m nuts, but there it is. Before reading anything or looking at any particular videos showing the things that are suspicious, I felt like there was something way off, that didn\u2019t make sense. Looking at evidence, even with the additional admittance from the FBI, there are a lot of things off.<\/p>\n<p>Melissa Ward<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Bob,<\/p>\n<p>Charlie may have been all those nasty things people say he was, but he was killed by fellas of NAFO who saw him as on obstacle to their campaign to unite the right behind Ukraine, because he was against our nation&#8217;s proxy war on 110 million Russian Orthodox Christians. And because both wars started with support from Democrats, he also didn&#8217;t stand for the rainbow values globalists were pushing East. F*cking bastards on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NewsNation, NEWSMAX, or any major media network or government office or agency will\u00a0 NEVER utter that fact. It&#8217;s what the narrative Kash Patel hand-delivered to the scene on the spot was trying to avoid. It&#8217;s what spooked Trump&#8217;s reversals. Netanyahu was just a decoy. There is too much money in THIS war to let it go, even if Black Rock wrote off its monstrous share last year. At present those forces are seeking to take Charlie&#8217;s movement over. Pray they fail. We need a peacemonger in his place, someone NOT subject to foreign policy whims or manipulations.\u00a0 That&#8217;s where the social-engineering battle for the next era is right now.<\/p>\n<p>Do the research Mr. Newsletter Man and get back to us!<\/p>\n<p>I am in good health and not depressed or distressed. If anything happens to me, wake the dead and rattle the living.<\/p>\n<p>Ken Shain<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p>After a business partner lied to me and my employer for two years, I texted them, &#8220;you are dead to me.&#8221; While this was a popular figure of speech at the time, the partner claimed, without evidence, that I was &#8220;threatening them with violence.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The phrase &#8220;dead to me&#8221; is obviously an idiom used to express extreme rejection and the end of a relationship, signifying that the person no longer exists to the speaker on an emotional level.\u00a0For normal human\u00a0interaction, it\u00a0is not typically considered a literal threat. However, workplace policies often prohibit language that can be\u00a0perceived\u00a0as threatening or intimidating.\u00a0Abusive language, especially when combined with aggressive or intimidating conduct, can be grounds for dismissal. That was not the case at all here. In fact, I was a great\u00a0partner and an exemplary\u00a0employee with numerous internal\u00a0awards reflecting that fact.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The company knew who I was and that this behavior was far out of character for me. Something terrible must have caused this reaction, no?<\/p>\n<p>I admit it was a mistake to put my feelings in writing. However, the message was also a test of my company&#8217;s loyalty to me. They, too, had lost confidence in this partner due to their dishonesty. I had already planned to leave my job, but I was curious to see if my employer would support me. So, I sent the text knowing where this might lead, but also feeling this would just end my involvement with this particular partner and everyone would move on.<\/p>\n<p>They did not. The company sided with the partner, and I was fired for what I considered &#8220;silly speech,&#8221; but any company would say is &#8220;for cause.&#8221; My frustration lies in the fact that my direct, albeit colloquial, communication was deemed unacceptable, while more subtle, &#8220;metaphorical&#8221; backstabbing is often tolerated in corporate America. This experience highlighted for me a disconnect in corporate culture, where loyalty is not always reciprocated, and the interpretation of communication can be weaponized.<\/p>\n<p>The Orange Despot and his fascist\u00a0regime wants the rest of America to act like a corporation with\u00a0him as CEO. Any American can be &#8220;fired for cause.&#8221; Probably might lead\u00a0to revoking citizenship, or certainly societal ostracizing.<\/p>\n<p>Oh! Don&#8217;t worry\u00a0about me! I re-invented myself and am 1000% happier for doing it. I was right and in this particular\u00a0instance, it was good I lost that job. 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