{"id":21468,"date":"2024-12-01T13:18:38","date_gmt":"2024-12-01T21:18:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/?p=21468"},"modified":"2024-12-01T13:23:15","modified_gmt":"2024-12-01T21:23:15","slug":"re-the-yacht-rock-documentary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/2024\/12\/01\/re-the-yacht-rock-documentary\/","title":{"rendered":"Re-The Yacht Rock Documentary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Spot on&#8230;halfway through I wondered, &#8220;what&#8217;s Bob going to make of this dreck?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I too was looking forward to this, and settled in to enjoy almost as soon as it &#8220;came online&#8221;, but what a disappointment.<\/p>\n<p>A subject\/genre with so much potential to enlighten and entertain.<\/p>\n<p>I agree that Michael Mc Donald and Christopher Cross were probably best value for money, but my favourite quote came from Steve Lukather.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Where&#8217;s my f*cking yacht?&#8221; (or something like that &#8211; not going to watch again to confirm)<\/p>\n<p>Cheers,<\/p>\n<p>David Thompson<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Amen.<\/p>\n<p>The trope of ironic distancing boomeranging back to (in)sincere appreciation has no meat left on the bone, and the opining of some dudes from UPROXX and Blender won\u2019t convince me otherwise.<\/p>\n<p>I would have rather watched Luke and Jay together in a room, talking about all the records they played on, but instead\u2026well, Donald said it best at the end of the doc(k).<\/p>\n<p>Best, Erick Haight<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Interesting comment about the Beatles documentary on Disney+.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re right. I don\u2019t have it because I don\u2019t need Star Wars or kid\u2019s TV. And I can\u2019t imagine Disney has a lot of Boomers, unless they have it for their grandkids. So I\u2019ll never see it. And strangely, even though the Beatles are my all time favorite band, I don\u2019t care. I guess that\u2019s the new world of content overload on streaming.<\/p>\n<p>John Parikhal<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>It was awful.<\/p>\n<p>But at least someone from Ambrosia made an appearance.<\/p>\n<p>And where was Little River Band?<\/p>\n<p>I wanted the \u201cahem&#8221; real stars of Yacht Rock, the one or one, two and three hit wonders.<\/p>\n<p>And Questlove telling me how great Yacht Rock was when I was listening to Chocolate City by P Funk? And dancing to Donna Summer? And then off to CBGB\u2019s for real music?<\/p>\n<p>Please. I&#8217;m embarrassed now to say how much I liked Orleans, because they\u2019re considered Yacht Rockers, even if Jon Hall \u00a0followed Yacht Rocking as a Congressman from NY and \u00a0prior to yachting, wrote &#8220;Half Moon&#8221; with his wife Johanna Hall, recorded \u00a0by Janis Joplin.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you, Bob for putting this doc into perspective. Along with the genre.<\/p>\n<p>Amy Krak\u00f3w<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>The worst!<\/p>\n<p>Jeff Laufer<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Could tell it would be awful from the trailer<\/p>\n<p>Ashley Milton<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Well I thought it was great and a doc that has every right to exist!<\/p>\n<p>Al Walser<br \/>\nGRAMMY\u00ae WINNER<br \/>\nwww.alwalser.com<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Aye man, you starting to sound like the grumpy old guy<\/p>\n<p>Best,<\/p>\n<p>Bob McNeil<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Right. \u00a0A heaping pantload.<\/p>\n<p>Paul Lanning<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Mahalo Bob\u2026 I was gonna get HBO just for this but was hoping\u00a0\u00a0you\u2019d\u00a0review it first\u2026<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m out\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>Tom Clark<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>The Beatles doc was disappointing but there were some prime moments: Sid Bernstein on booking them then the Stones into Carnegie\u2026<\/p>\n<p>And seeing Murray the K. made to look like a putz was great.<\/p>\n<p>Giles Martin cleaned up the Washington D.C. concert sound miraculously. Was worth watching just for that. Ringo was amazing\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Not great especially if you lived through it as a teen as I did \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Michael Fremer<br \/>\nTrackingAngle editor<br \/>\nThe Absolute Sound Editor at Large<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I was born in 74, so pretty much right at the beginning of this genre of music now known as Yacht Rock. My earliest musical memories were listening to Chicago\u2019s WLS on a Sesame Street radio when I was about five years old. This music was everywhere. I distinctly recall hearing Baker Street a lot (not sure if that falls in the Yacht Rock genre or not), as well as What A Fool Believes and Ride Like The Wind.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve loved all this music before it was branded Yacht Rock. Prior to that pejorative, it was simply known as soft rock. I\u2019ll admit, I never did a deep dive into the scene, which is unusual for me. I knew the artists, but was unaware (other than McDonald) how intertwined they all were. It\u2019s not terribly surprising, I suppose, since the hair metal scene was similar. Bands swapping members. Guys who\u2019d grown up together, gone to high school together and they\u2019re now either in a band together, or in competing bands.<\/p>\n<p>When I fired up the Max app to watch this last night, I was initially disappointed when I saw that this was only an hour and a half, give or take. Truthfully, I was hoping for a Ken Burns style deep dive, but would have settled for four episodes. Hell, Paramont + put together three episodes on their recent doc about the aforementioned hair metal scene. I\u2019m glad I watched it, but it was definitely a brief overview and could have gone so much deeper (what was going on culturally at the time).<\/p>\n<p>Regardless, the songs and production were incredible.<\/p>\n<p>Neil Johnson<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t understood the \u201cYacht Rock\u201d label. Back in the day it was just called \u201dsoft rock\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>And there\u2019s nothing wrong with soft rock. I bought a lot of those 45\u2019s: \u201cGuitar Man\u201d by Bread? Brilliant! \u201cFeel Like Making Love\u201d by Roberta Flack? Hell, that was practically audio porn for a 14 year old. Almost anything by the early Carpenters is godhead. And there\u2019s the hidden treasure of \u2018Something\u2019s Wrong With Me\u2019 by Austin Roberts. F@cking heartbreaking.<\/p>\n<p>But you won\u2019t hear these Yacht Rock cover bands going into those deep cuts because basically they\u2019re still moored in the shallow waters of Firefall and The Little River Band.<\/p>\n<p>Lame scene. Nostalgia without any sense of passion for the real pearls of the time.<\/p>\n<p>Lee Elliott<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Agreed x ten.<\/p>\n<p>The doc is all prose and no poetry.\u00a0 Lest we forget that boomers dated and mated to these songs.\u00a0 Not a word here about what it was like to actually live and love in that era.<\/p>\n<p>Most of this was covered in other docs.\u00a0 Kind of sick of this deconstructionist stuff.\u00a0 The &#8216;critics&#8217; they interviewed were barely alive back so zero cred there.\u00a0 Fred Armisen is 57.\u00a0 Still too young to get the gestalt.<\/p>\n<p>I was there as a young critic.\u00a0 Steely Dan made great records but didn&#8217;t tour and they paid for that distance. Kenny Loggins sold out.\u00a0 Toto&#8217;s production doesn&#8217;t hold up against Boston&#8217;s in terms of car audio firepower. Blah blah blah.<\/p>\n<p>Will Ferrell said more just wearing a Pablo Cruise t shirt in the legendary &#8216;More Cowbell&#8217; sketch on SNL.<\/p>\n<p>Right on Bob,<\/p>\n<p>Jonathan Gross<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLighten up Francis!\u201d\u2026Come\u00a0on Bob.<\/p>\n<p>Great Storytelling and Vulnerability from the Artists themselves.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLighten up Francis!\u201d &#8211; 2.0 &#8211; Bethany Cosentino is my cousin.<\/p>\n<p>Best Coast was formed &amp; named when she moved back to LA from New York paying her homage to the California \u201cYacht Rock\u201d sound.<\/p>\n<p>Keep on Writing &#8211; I\u2019ll keep on reading.<\/p>\n<p>TA<\/p>\n<p>Terry Anzaldo<\/p>\n<p>TA Entertainment<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Sorry about Yacht Rock docu\u2026.<br \/>\nI Recommend 2 brand new music documentaries coming from the U.K.:<br \/>\nFirst, BBC found lost film footage of the BandAid session and it\u2019s very moving and fabulous. Especially when you were so acquainted with many of the folks involved. You\u2019ll dig it, especially when ignorant, know nothing idiots like Ed Sheeran criticize BandAid these days.<br \/>\nSecond, Sky released a comprehensive history of the Yardbirds, featuring interviews with ex-band members and people like Alice Cooper.<br \/>\nYou\u2019ll enjoy both cuz you were there.<br \/>\nCheers, Keith Zimmerman<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Lighten up. Whike the doc missed a lot, it was entertaining. I guess Fagan doesn&#8217;t like the moniker either. F@ck you.<\/p>\n<p>Ron Cori<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>You don\u2019t get it. \u00a0We\u2019ll take anything.<\/p>\n<p>Recalling when there were actual melodies and harmonies is better than the drivel they beat us over the head with today.<\/p>\n<p>The runway is getting short. Let us enjoy something we can still\u00a0remember.<\/p>\n<p>Rick Osswald<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Watched new Beatles documentary last night, awful. It was mostly other people talking about the Beatles and not enough footage of them at that time. Jackson&#8217;s Get Back is officially the last word<\/p>\n<p>Bob Kalill<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for saving me the trouble of watching this.<\/p>\n<p>It seems emblematic of the disrespect these musicians have endured for years, starting with the stupid name. They created some of the most sophisticated pop music that ever graced the airwaves. They may not have been the \u201ctortured artists\u201d that some people claim to love, but virtually everyone enjoyed them, even if they claimed to hate them. As is so often the case, most have found a resurgence among younger people who don\u2019t know they are not supposed to be hip, and they have gone from being loved ironically for a time to being loved admittedly.<\/p>\n<p>I do take issue with the assertion that Kenny Loggins did his best work with Messina, though. Forget \u201cFootloose\u201d and \u201cDanger Zone&#8221;; \u00a0\u201cHeart to Heart\u201d and \u201cThis is It\u201d are amazing songs, productions, and vocal performances. The lyrics of the latter should be taken as an anthem for these times. And speaking of lyrics, many of those on Michael McDonald\u2019s debut solo record are as deep as any singer\/songwriter\u2019s. These people were spectacular craftsmen to the point where craft becomes art.<\/p>\n<p>Hope someday someone will make a good doc about them.<\/p>\n<p>Best<\/p>\n<p>Michael Ross<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I have a problem with the Yacht Rock moniker in general, but including Steely Dan in that group is a huge insult to the talent and output of that band. They\u2019ve never sounded like any other band that I\u2019ve heard, and it is especially true when considering the other bands that a couple of idiots roped into the Yacht Rock category.<\/p>\n<p>Tom Scharf<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>So, I spent the evening watching an excellent documentary on HBO with my wife last\u00a0night.\u00a0 I found the connections drawn between various session musicians and groups that had hits in the early 80s fascinating.<\/p>\n<p>I then read my email&#8230; and found your latest missive&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Do you know what people dislike about critics of various times?\u00a0 They are rarely proficient\u00a0in what they are criticizing&#8230;\u00a0 Surprise.\u00a0 You&#8217;re not even a musician.<\/p>\n<p>Alas&#8230;\u00a0 I enjoy what you write.\u00a0 But perhaps instead\u00a0of dissecting\u00a0all the minutia\u00a0of what you didn&#8217;t like (misspelling of an obscure\u00a0name),\u00a0you could credit the documentary with the homage to Toto (did I spell that right?)\u00a0 All those session musicians and what they did for some perfect music.\u00a0 What&#8217;s the beef with Questlove, too?\u00a0 Lord man&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Keep up the excellent work.<\/p>\n<p>Jim Anderson<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I was excited for this documentary and I didn\u2019t expect much. What I got was not a deep dive but I did get fun and light. And some of us need that at this moment.<\/p>\n<p>Scotty Elyanow<br \/>\nNYC<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I haven\u2019t see this yet, probably never will but you have to give Max credit for Stax Records. It is fantastic.<\/p>\n<p>Bill Gerber<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t expect such anger about yacht rock; you been hanging out w Donald Fagen? Completely disagree w you; this doc is an easy and entertaining watch; light fare about \u00a0light fare. Is it in the pantheon w other great rock docs, no way but who cares. \u00a0What were you hoping for, Gettysburg?<\/p>\n<p>This wasn\u2019t made for you; you are too in it. All I\u2019m hearing from 30 and 40 \u00a0year \u00a0olds is how great this is as it\u2019s a vibe and time they weren\u2019t familiar with and the music and pop culture references fill the gaps.<\/p>\n<p>Happy Thanksgiving !<\/p>\n<p>Mark\u00a0Burrell<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I put it on thinking I\u2019d watch 10 minutes.<\/p>\n<p>Watched the whole thing and quite enjoyed it- including the comedy\/satire angle. \u00a0Well suited for the genre.<\/p>\n<p>Lighten up.<\/p>\n<p>Rand<\/p>\n<p>PS \u00a0They should edit it immediately with Mo\u2019s actual name.<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I felt the same way about \u201cYacht Rock\u201d as even the title is disparaging but disagree about Kenny\u2019s work post Loggins and Messina.<\/p>\n<p>The Celebrate Me Home Album kicks off with \u201cLady Luck\u201d with Richard Tee, Hiram Bullock, Tommy Tedesco, Lee Ritenour, Eric Gale, Robben Ford and Steve Gadd kicking ass right from the opening notes. I recall listening to this album while on tour with Natalie Cole and even the 6 week \u201879 tour with The Stones supporting the Some Girls release<\/p>\n<p>Rob<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Not surprised.<br \/>\nThe term \u201cYacht Rock\u201d has always been used pejoratively by people who are tone deaf.<br \/>\nCritics are typically writers so their concept of thoughtful music focuses on lyrics. And since the most sophisticated music of the rock era is influenced by R&amp;B and Jazz (which can be, but often isn\u2019t striving for poetry) we can see where a lot tracks featuring Michael McDonald\u2019s voice go sailing over the heads of the scribbling set.<br \/>\nAlso these types tend to segregate music which is why incredibly complex music by black artists (like EW&amp;F) are spared the put-down of being called Yacht Rock. But Blue-eyed Soul is fair game.<br \/>\nWhen it comes to your consumer, I believe many people don\u2019t like to venture beyond \u201cThree Chords and\u2026 (\u2018the Truth\u2019 or \u2018a Blues Lick\u2019 or \u2018an Attitude\u2019).<br \/>\nThey might be able to handle diminished chords in a Garth Brooks song, but only because it leads to a \u201cbig dumb chorus\u201d.<br \/>\nAnything that hints at Jazz is confusing and a little scary.<br \/>\nThat\u2019s why when someone sneers about Yacht Rock I immediately dismiss them as simpletons, in the purest sense of the word.<br \/>\nKISS isn\u2019t just a mediocre band, it\u2019s an acronym for the unadventurous.<\/p>\n<p>Keith Brown<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>BBC did a 2-parter 5 years ago that dug deeper\u2026<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/SHawFYv_Vts?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<br \/>\nZach Goode<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>Oh Bob\u2026<br \/>\nWe\u2019ve stomached a few weeks of your takedowns of MSNBC and the yesteryear Dems, but now you\u2019ve gotta take down our Yacht Rock!??<br \/>\nI just keep thinking while reading your review of this \u201cPOS\u201d (your term) Yacht Rock \u201cdock\u201d\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Lighten up, man!!!!<\/p>\n<p>Yeah they misspelled \u201cOstin\u201d. \u00a0For the 6 industry insiders that care. \u00a0And yes they should have gotten it right.<br \/>\nBut does that really discount the whole affair\u2026.?<br \/>\nI WAS there, as a kiddo\u2026 I was inspired by these musicians, I friggin\u2019 BECAME one of these musicians!<br \/>\nAnd they\u2019re all having fun reflecting on their canon, their reputations, their image (or lack thereof), their hits and misses. \u00a0Even Kenny Loggins comes around to recognize why people parodied and also celebrated the genre and cast of characters.<br \/>\nI\u2019ve gotten more texts about \u201chave you watched the Yacht Rock doc\u201d since it dropped 24 hours ago than anything in years! No one cares where it streams. \u00a0We find what we want to watch. \u00a0\u00a0And everyone\u2019s getting a kick out of this thing.<br \/>\nThe film casually references KNX-FM, twice. As a kid, my ears recognized that station to epitomize what high class deep stereo-store adult rock radio should sound like.<br \/>\nLuke, Steve Porcaro, Mike McDonald, Paich (all guys you\u2019ve had on your podcast in recent months) are proud of this documentary. Because they have SENSES OF HUMOR, Bob! \u00a0Because, even though they worked their asses off to make polished records, like the genre, maybe this documentary doesn\u2019t have to take itself too seriously and neither do they. \u00a0Maybe it can just be 90 minutes feeling good about \u201cfeel good music\u201d.<br \/>\nBy the way- you point out exactly what you didn\u2019t seem to get from the doc. \u00a0Kenny Loggins indeed made great music with Messina, but it was basically in the folk vein, which he pointed out, and when he went solo, the genre morphed into something else. \u00a0White R&amp;B? \u00a0Soft soul rock? \u00a0Who knows. Who cares. (And is it coincidence that Jim\u2019s career didn\u2019t exactly \u201csail smoothly\u201d post duo?)<br \/>\nKudos to Bill Simmons, a great guy and a fan, and to the participants.<\/p>\n<p>I had FUN watching this f@cking thing. God forbid!<\/p>\n<p>Jeff Babko<br \/>\nThe Valley<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>You straight up trippin&#8217;, bro .<\/p>\n<p>That was a perfectly serviceable rock doc..It does what it set out to do..I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re disappointed.. Sounds like a &#8220;you&#8221; problem..<\/p>\n<p>Paramount Plus did a three part take on Yacht Rock..(&#8220;Sometimes When We Touch&#8221;)..Pretty much identical..You&#8217;re looking for a there that just ain&#8217;t there..Those studio cats looked kinda&#8217; nerdy..Not sure they were privy to the same level of debauchery as a Motley Crue..<\/p>\n<p>Maybe a movie\/book about the Porcorro family dynamics would yield more dramatic possibilities..Maybe NOT, it could just be all about the work..<\/p>\n<p>At least, they (Max) devoted twenty seconds to the unsung hero, the FENDER RHODES.. Finally! &#8220;Rhodes Rock&#8221; would be the better moniker for the genre..When the DX7 (Yamaha digital synth) got featured on &#8220;Sweet Freedom&#8221;, that (yacht rock) shark had jumped..It was all about the ANALOG..<\/p>\n<p>At least it wasn&#8217;t as woke as the Little Richard (Max) doc..Boomer talking heads talking about the MUSIC..Zoomer talking heads complaining that Little Richard didn&#8217;t do enough for the LGBTQ community..Woke apologists claiming he could have done more for the black community..<\/p>\n<p>Wanna&#8217; try being an openly gay black person in the 1950s!? Those kids have NO idea..<\/p>\n<p>And so it goes..MAGA trying to copy and paste yesterday&#8217;s values onto the present moment.. Social Justice Warriors trying to copy and paste today&#8217;s values onto the past..Yeah, THAT will end well..<\/p>\n<p>James Spencer<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy dad&#8217;s music is so lame, I\u2019m going to make fun of it.\u201d -Fred Armisen. This guy&#8217;s music mocking schtick is pure sh*t. Not funny. Not inventive. Just lazy. He has milked Portlandia as far as it can go. Like these yacht racketeer film makers.<\/p>\n<p>What goes on here?<\/p>\n<p>Every generation makes fun of the one before. Sinatra was considered lame for his last few attempts. Have you heard LA Is My Lady? Pure sh*t. Quincy of course wrote for and conducted the Count Basie Band for Frank in the 50\u2019s-60\u2019s but LA Is My Lady came out only because Quincy was back on top cause of Michael Jackson. There\u2019s no way that album would have otherwise been made. I remember the nausea watching Frank trying to be relevant in the pop culture. &#8216;Bad Bad Leroy Brown.\u2019 McCartney\u2019s \u2018Something\u2019 where Frank sings \u201cStick around Jack! It might show\u2026..\u201d<br \/>\nHe had no need to. Go back to the Capital years conducted by Nelson Riddle where Sinatra was at the peak form. No need to try and keep up. Time to retire and play golf. Tour if you want. But only if you can hit the notes. If you can\u2019t sing, please. STOP. We all know the remaining 70\u2019s music artists currently whose voices fail them before our eyes. Just like Sinatra\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>So the Doobies and Boz and Steely are now the new Sinatra. But instead of sitting it out they\u2019re gonna let Fred and some lame ass music bloggers define an entire generation with no push back? F@ck that. Honor what you did, don\u2019t be part of the joke.<\/p>\n<p>Why not step down and let the new generation come in, maybe changing it up after a time like Tony Bennett Unplugged or Robert Plant and Alison Kraus. He knows he can\u2019t hit those notes in the Zep years. Why should we want him too? Music is an art form that has to come from the muse. That\u2019s it.<\/p>\n<p>Thundercat is singing their praises but the whole doc comes off like \u201cwe tried to make fun of them but we were caught with our lame joke so now we\u2019re going to back-peddle. Just PLEASE pay attention to us and our opinion cause this is all we\u2019ve got. Talking about someone else\u2019s music.\u201d<br \/>\nThis is not music journalism. This is media whore roulette. Pick an obvious music culture that\u2019s easy to mock cause of the mustaches and tube tops and run with it.<\/p>\n<p>Michael McDonald is so humble which is admirable but he\u2019s almost apologizing for his amazing voice and songs because some lame yacht web site poked fun. It\u2019s always best to be in on the joke but please do not lay down, Michael. You are our generation&#8217;s Ray Charles. Your touring with the Doobies again and acknowledging them in the Beato interview (especially Keith Knudsen on Minute by Minute) shows your humility but please do now lump yourself in this lame ass genre doc. As Joni Mitchell says, \u201cHonor the gift&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Questlove places judgment on what is soft rock (what, because it\u2019s not blazing Van Halen, it&#8217;s therefore soft?) while HIS music is NOT to be called into question? An entire generation doesn\u2019t play musical instruments but samples and performs with turntables because it was music of the streets and there was no money to buy instruments? So you just piggy back on the previous hard working musician&#8217;s content? \u00a0The same lame tired ass beats and non singers \u201csinging\u201d \u201cye ye yeh.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I guess Quest has a few years before HIS documentary Subway Rock comes out. Hip hop is art but the Doobies and Steely are white guy rock? Please. This is an old conversation that is likely to gain speed in the new Trump era. I heard an NPR interviewer ask Michael McDonald if he was appropriating black music with his voice? What? Stevie Wonder mentions the Doobie Brothers on his album Songs In The Key Of Life! Smokey Robinson loved The Beatles BEFORE they covered \u201cYou Really Got A Hold On Me\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Musicians and singers, composers don\u2019t think in those terms of black and white. Media does. They did in the 50\u2019s when Little Richard\u2019s Tutti Frutti was too sexed up for the white radio but Pat Boone\u2019s version is legit?<\/p>\n<p>Patsy Cline was one of the most soulful singers ever and she was white.<br \/>\nMusic is colorless.<\/p>\n<p>This doc is a lame attempt to categorize more than one style of music into a genre because everyone who created the music was afraid to take it on as an insult. No backbone. (Except I love when Lukather yells, \u201cWhere\u2019s my f*cking yacht?\u201d) Jeff Porcaro would NOT have just let his entire career be sized up as a genre reflecting a boat at the marina because of the Loggins &amp; Messina album cover.<\/p>\n<p>Their managers must have said, \u201cJust go with it, you\u2019re not selling CD\u2019s or downloads anymore, all you\u2019ve got left is touring, maybe you can take part in the Yacht Rock tour and we can sell more tickets. It\u2019s a sad commentary on how music artists are able to earn.<\/p>\n<p>Thank God the doc ends with Donald Fagen saying \u201cGo f*ck yourself\u201d to the director.<\/p>\n<p>Michael Koehler<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I meant to write on Friday regarding your Mike Pinera item&#8230;.simply to highlight your comments on Yacht Rock.\u00a0 What IS Yacht Rock?\u00a0 THEN, along came the doc we both saw Friday.<\/p>\n<p>I am a student of all things Toto.\u00a0 I love the fact Lukather reads and responds to your column.\u00a0 I spend half my life preaching from the pulpit about their reach, their depth, their endless contributions to the fabric of the music we all listen to.\u00a0 Been lucky to see them live dozens of times and meet every surviving member so\u00a0I can thank them personally for being part of my\u00a0life&#8217;s\u00a0soundtrack.\u00a0 The only one I never met was Jeff Porcaro.\u00a0 I did meet his widow at a record store I worked at in Orlando, she was buying up all the Toto memorabilia\u00a0she could for her kids, so they&#8217;d remember dad.\u00a0 Only when she paid did I realize her name and who she was.\u00a0 Will never forget that.\u00a0 So to be able to get any of the band members to participate in this doc is remarkable, considering what they went thru in 2019.<\/p>\n<p>I was introduced to this Yacht Rock deal, just like many, in 2005 when a friend sent me the web series in email.\u00a0 What stood out was their inclusion of Hall &amp; Oates &#8220;Portable Radio&#8221;, from their much-overlooked 1979 album X-static.\u00a0 I&#8217;d never heard the term before and, frankly, until the doc I didn&#8217;t have any one clear definition on what this genre is.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t get the Yacht Rock tribute bands and all of that, not my thing.\u00a0 It has evidently struck a nerve with the general public, and I think this doc was essentially made for that audience.\u00a0 It is actually quite good, but I understand your desire to dive deeper.<\/p>\n<p>According to the doc, Hall &amp; Oates and Fleetwood Mac aren&#8217;t bonafide Yacht\u00a0Rock.\u00a0 I guess that&#8217;s up for debate, I can see why Fleetwood Mac might not be, despite their SoCal appeal, but the series&#8217; own\u00a0creators lampooned Hall &amp; Oates in episode one.\u00a0 Let&#8217;s talk about what ISN&#8217;T Yacht Rock.\u00a0 The Hues Corporation &#8220;Rock The Boat&#8221;.\u00a0 The Jacksons &#8220;Give It Up&#8221;.\u00a0 Al Wilson &#8220;Show &amp; Tell&#8221;.\u00a0 Lionel Richie &#8220;All Night Long&#8221;.\u00a0 I have a very long list.\u00a0 All tunes our beloved Sirius\/XM plays with unmerciful regularity on their Yacht Rock channel, which has a huge audience.\u00a0 How do we now change that mindset?\u00a0 This doc helps.\u00a0 The &#8220;Yacht Rock Deep Cuts&#8221; variant on the app is far more to the point, and makes that deep dive we crave, but still offers some bonafide R&amp;B cuts.\u00a0 The doc connects the dots for these folks that may be still pondering that point.\u00a0 And the references in other shows\/outlets helps illustrate the impact of this music.<\/p>\n<p>Diving deeper.\u00a0 Would a general audience appreciate the fact that Kenny Loggins&#8217; &#8220;Danger Zone&#8221; was based on the Toto demo that was passed over?\u00a0 Would they be interested to hear that the Al Jarreau classic &#8220;We&#8217;re In This Love Together&#8221; was meant for the Larsen-Feiten Band? Will they appreciate that Steve Lukather has a writing credit on George Benson&#8217;s &#8220;Turn Your Love Around&#8221;?\u00a0 Well, THAT they could have mentioned, since the song is highlighted in the doc&#8230;.but no.\u00a0 It&#8217;s like you say, we live in a sound bite world now, attention spans can only absorb so much.\u00a0 This doc has everything the inquiring mind wants to know.\u00a0 Those of us interested in what makes the music, how its designed and recorded, sliced and diced, made ready for public\u00a0consumption&#8230;likely already know.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for your input.\u00a0 I was glowing about the doc and already showed it off to a couple people who did like it.\u00a0 The phone call with Donald Fagen being the mic drop.<\/p>\n<p>Kevin Andrusia<\/p>\n<p>Orlando, FL<\/p>\n<p>_________________________________<\/p>\n<p>I haven&#8217;t even finished your letter and you are so 1000% WRONG&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>As a guy who has listened to ALL Yacht Rock podcasts with JD, Hunter, Dave and Steve, I can tell you without hesitation that these guys LOVE this music. I just can&#8217;t believe what I&#8217;m reading here. It is laughable. They read every liner note, know ALL the connections.. .they have MUTLIPLE\u00a0podcasts about music\u00a0and know this stuff backward and forward!<\/p>\n<p>You don&#8217;t put that much effort into something you&#8217;re making fun of.<\/p>\n<p>You are so off the mark here. I loved every minute of it. The discussion on the &#8216;Doobie Bounce&#8217; was exactly the kind of analysis that nobody talks about.<\/p>\n<p>That rhythm motif from &#8216;What A Fool Believes&#8217;? Michael McDonald was emulating The Four Tops, &#8216;Sweet Understanding Love&#8217;:<\/p>\n<p>The Four Tops &#8211; Sweet Understanding Love<\/p>\n<p>Beyond Yacht Rock<\/p>\n<p>Yacht or Nyacht<\/p>\n<p>Billion Dollar Record Club<\/p>\n<p>Listen to these podcasts by JD, Hunter, Steve, Dave and tell me they don&#8217;t love this music.<\/p>\n<p>Bananas, sir. 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