{"id":1347,"date":"2008-09-05T12:50:44","date_gmt":"2008-09-05T20:50:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/archives\/2008\/09\/05\/more-chinese-democracy\/"},"modified":"2008-09-05T12:52:01","modified_gmt":"2008-09-05T20:52:01","slug":"more-chinese-democracy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lefsetz.com\/wordpress\/2008\/09\/05\/more-chinese-democracy\/","title":{"rendered":"More Chinese Democracy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Following please find an e-mail thread between Eric Garland, CEO of BigChampagne, and myself:<\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\" style=\"margin-right: 0px;\">\n<div style=\"margin-left: 40px;\">From: Eric Garland<br \/>Subject: Re: More Irving\/Leaks<br \/>Date: September 3, 2008 11:12:17 AM PDT<br \/>To: bob@lefsetz.com<\/p>\n<p>So often I hear &quot;artists, labels, and publishers have the right&#8230;&quot;.\u00c2\u00a0 Well of course they have the right, both under law and in principle.\u00c2\u00a0 Is anyone you know really disputing that?<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s all agree:<\/p>\n<p>1) Artists\/owners have the right to control their creative works.<br \/>2) These rights will be habitually, and increasingly, violated (sometimes by your most loyal fans).<br \/>3) As these rights are violated, of course artists can avail themselves of legal remedies.<br \/>4) However, this will not impact the ongoing, chronic, and mass violation of those rights.\u00c2\u00a0 See #2, above.<\/p>\n<p>What is there to argue about?\u00c2\u00a0 Your work has been illegally wrested from your control.\u00c2\u00a0 Hey, that&#8217;s not right!\u00c2\u00a0 Agreed.\u00c2\u00a0 Now you have a simple strategic decision to make: pursue criminal or civil relief, or don&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>But let&#8217;s be very clear about the facts and the numbers.<\/p>\n<p>Arresting the GNR leaker has had a measurable impact on GNR piracy.\u00c2\u00a0 It has increased it, necessarily, by drawing a lot of attention to it.\u00c2\u00a0 News cycles do that every time. \u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>All of the leaked tracks continue to be easily obtained from a wide variety of the most popular destinations on the web.\u00c2\u00a0 Google, for one.\u00c2\u00a0 Same as it ever was.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>From: Bob Lefsetz<br \/>To: Eric Garland<br \/>Sent: Wed Sep 03 18:14:59 2008<br \/>Subject: Re: More Irving\/Leaks<\/p>\n<p>Can you provide me with statistics as to the increase after the \u00c2\u00a0<br \/>leak, after the lawsuit, etc?<\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\" style=\"margin-right: 0px;\">\n<div style=\"margin-left: 40px;\">From: Eric Garland<br \/>Subject: Re: More Irving\/Leaks<br \/>Date: September 4, 2008 12:41:13 PM PDT<br \/>To: bob@lefsetz.com<\/p>\n<p>Well, only the leaker (nd now the FBI) knows for sure how many people grabbed the tracks directly from his own blog before he was shut down, but nothing like the more than 60,000 people (and counting) who have snagged it since the story of his arrest hit.<\/p>\n<p>Most people learn about these leaks in the press.\u00c2\u00a0 The bigger the news cycle, the bigger the leak.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>From: Bob Lefsetz <br \/>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:23 PM<br \/>To: Eric Garland<br \/>Subject: Re: More Irving\/Leaks<\/p>\n<p>But how many downloaded it before the story about the arrest hit?<\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\" style=\"margin-right: 0px;\">\n<div style=\"margin-left: 40px;\">From: Eric Garland<br \/>Subject: Re: More Irving\/Leaks<br \/>Date: September 4, 2008 1:39:18 PM PDT<br \/>To: bob@lefsetz.com<\/p>\n<p>Sorry, should have been clearer: almost no one on torrent sites, as the initial downloading was directly from his blog.\u00c2\u00a0 The news story broke five days later and the torrent downloading has been going gangbusters ever since.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/rockdaily\/index.php\/2008\/06\/24\/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy-leaker-gets-fbi-visit\/\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Guns n\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 Roses\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Chinese Democracy\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Leaker Gets FBI Visit\">Guns n\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 Roses\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Chinese Democracy\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Leaker Gets FBI Visit<\/a><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>From: Bob Lefsetz<br \/>To: Eric Garland<br \/>Sent: Fri Sep 05 11:29:02 2008<br \/>Subject: Re: More Irving\/Leaks<\/p>\n<p>Just so I&#8217;m clear, and maybe you have the statistics&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>How big was the jump after the arrest?<\/p>\n<p>Thanks.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\" style=\"margin-right: 0px;\">\n<div style=\"margin-left: 40px;\">From: Eric Garland<br \/>Subject: Re: More Irving\/Leaks<br \/>Date: September 5, 2008 10:16:09 AM PDT<br \/>To: bob@lefsetz.com<\/p>\n<p>Since the news cycle broke, almost all of the public (torrent) downloading has taken place, as the increased media attention created awareness. 90+% of torrent activity has been since the story broke.\u00c2\u00a0 But what&#8217;s more important is that people are _still_ downloading it apace and it is more public than it was when it was only on the leaker&#8217;s blog.<\/p>\n<p>Do a Google search for keywords &quot;chinese democracy torrent.&quot;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Following please find an e-mail thread between Eric Garland, CEO of BigChampagne, and myself: From: Eric GarlandSubject: Re: More Irving\/LeaksDate: September 3, 2008 11:12:17 AM PDTTo: bob@lefsetz.com So often I hear &quot;artists, labels, and publishers have the right&#8230;&quot;.\u00c2\u00a0 Well of course they have the right, both under law and in principle.\u00c2\u00a0 Is anyone you know 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